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New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by oblio »

arca_vorago wrote: post #147

If anyone trusts microsoft right now after the past year or two worth of things we've learned I highly doubt their dedication to a free and open source vision of the future. I actually have a hard time beleiving some of these comments are even organic... (web and server devs are going to migrate to windows!). What world do these people live in? It's like people live in fantasy land and have forgotten the 90's truth o…

I don't trust Microsoft. But they're less evil than Apple, look at Apple is doing with its locked garden (no GPL, only one browser engine allowed, no JITing except for their Javascript engine, development only on their platform, etc., etc.).

On top of this, Microsoft is a smaller fish these days. They've lost mobile, probably forever. They're behind in search, ads, cloud, etc.

So they're, maybe not toothless, but definitely less harmful than they were in the 90's.

For EEE they need to be able to extinguish. They can't extinguish Linux or OSS now, it's basically impossible.

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by apardoe-MSFT »

oridecon wrote: post #37
smacktoward wrote: post #5

Microsoft is so frustrating. On the one hand, they really seem earnest about wanting to make Windows 10 appealing to people like me who fled Windows for Unix-alike systems long ago. And steps like this show that they're not just addressing that at a shallow level, but are willing to dig deep to make it happen, which is sincerely encouraging. But then on the other hand, they insist on loading Windows 10 up with privac…

Since everything and everyone is collecting user data, it would be fair to leave the starter/home/"cloud" editions as it is. But damn, if I'm going to pay for my OS I want ZERO data collection and the option to never use stuff like Cortana (opt-in). And if that's too much to ask, why don't they release a more expensive Windows 10 Tinfoil Edition? You would still have to trust MS but at least you would have the legal…

So what phone do you carry? A Nokia flip-phone?

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by JadeNB »

oridecon wrote: post #53
Semaphor wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arch works fine, the wsl subreddit ( https://www.reddit.com/r/bashonubuntuonwindows/ ) has a guide how to install it manually.

What a nice name for a subreddit

It's interesting to see how your mind starts chunking it into almost-words if your eye runs into the middle of it while scanning the page.

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by JadeNB »

akacase wrote: post #107
devrandomguy wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is jwz?

https://www.jwz.org/gruntle/rbarip.html

It's not clear if it's the intended result, but that link (for me, and quite unexpectedly) redirects to an Imgur picture of a testicle in a teacup, which is a little funny but which one might not intend to display.

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by gigatexal »

electricEmu wrote: post #132
gigatexal wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The win 10 experience for me has been such a disappointment between the privacy concerns and the overall UI I'd much rather not bother. To each their own, though.

For many of us, privacy doesn't exist on work machines anyways.

Oh I know. I tell myself everyday that I walk into work or log into my workstation remotely that I give up all semblance of privacy. It's in my firm's employee agreement that basically everything is tracked.

I was talking about my home workstation.

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by oridecon »

apardoe-MSFT wrote: post #152
oridecon wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since everything and everyone is collecting user data, it would be fair to leave the starter/home/"cloud" editions as it is. But damn, if I'm going to pay for my OS I want ZERO data collection and the option to never use stuff like Cortana (opt-in). And if that's too much to ask, why don't they release a more expensive Windows 10 Tinfoil Edition? You would still have to trust MS but at least you would have the legal…

So what phone do you carry? A Nokia flip-phone?

Really? On a discussion about a desktop OS? There are so many things going through my mind after your comment that I can't even start typing. Branch limit reached.

I'm using Android and I have the same concerns about it. I gave my Lumia away because it doesn't have the apps that I need and, again, I had the same concerns. My time is limited so I have to pick my battles. Mobile is a lost cause.

So I decide to give feedback about one of the two desktop OSs that I use (Windows and Linux). I don't give a shit if Apple/Google is going to make you insert a coin every hour to use the OS, I would still complain to MS if they decided to do the same.

I don't even know exactly what's your point. Feel free to ask if I write Microsoft with a $.

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by komali2 »

dlp211 wrote: post #139
komali2 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not 100% on this, but I'm fairly certain I wiped and reinstalled Windows on my surface after the creator's update, and I still had this issue.

You wiped, how would the OS remember?

As in, after I wiped, I uninstalled Minecraft, and within 5 minutes it was reinstalling.

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by zadjii »

arca_vorago wrote: post #147

If anyone trusts microsoft right now after the past year or two worth of things we've learned I highly doubt their dedication to a free and open source vision of the future. I actually have a hard time beleiving some of these comments are even organic... (web and server devs are going to migrate to windows!). What world do these people live in? It's like people live in fantasy land and have forgotten the 90's truth o…

Hey your opinion is cool and all. But there are a lot of people who put a lot of hard work into this project, because we're developers too, and we think the idea of being able to run a full linux userland on top of the NT kernel is fucking cool.

This project has never been about EEE. It's not about controlling the user. It's the complete opposite. It's all about choice. I like a linux style development environment more than I like Windows style. In my free time I mostly write python applications and do webdev-y stuff, and WSL makes it really easy for me to do that.

But then again, that's just my opinion.

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by fsiefken »

posguy wrote: post #148
corysama wrote: post #126

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I'm betting this is the real end-goal of WSL. MacBooks were once expensive, but high-quality, grab-and-go unixy development machines. Now, they're mostly just expensive. When WSL matures, any commodity laptop will be a cheap, decent quality, grab-and-go unixy dev machine. It'll probably be easier and more reliable than installing Ubuntu directly! At that point, web and server devs will migrate en mass from Mac to Win…

Huh? MacBooks are unlikely to disappear, companies love how slowly they depreciate (and are easily sellable), while it is by far the most optimized unix system out there. Pound for pound, a MacBook will last longer while doing more than a Windows or Linux laptop, despite Microsoft's and Linus's efforts to rectify this. Why would anyone pick Windows over Debian for development if their target is a Linux boxen in a ser…

I did a wget -r -l3 in WSL just yesterday to download xconq documentation, worked perfectly.

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by zadjii »

nailer wrote: post #145
zadjii wrote: post #58

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That's a prerelease bug. It's being fixed :)

Since its 'bash on Windows' something modern and bash-ish would be lovely.

... Perhaps the icon should correlated directly with the distro that you're running?
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