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New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by shepardrtc »

smacktoward wrote: post #5

Microsoft is so frustrating. On the one hand, they really seem earnest about wanting to make Windows 10 appealing to people like me who fled Windows for Unix-alike systems long ago. And steps like this show that they're not just addressing that at a shallow level, but are willing to dig deep to make it happen, which is sincerely encouraging. But then on the other hand, they insist on loading Windows 10 up with privac…

> It feels like there's different groups inside MS that [...] Nadella either isn't willing or isn't able to wrangle them into all pulling in the same direction

That's exactly how it is.

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by aeleos »

smacktoward wrote: post #5

Microsoft is so frustrating. On the one hand, they really seem earnest about wanting to make Windows 10 appealing to people like me who fled Windows for Unix-alike systems long ago. And steps like this show that they're not just addressing that at a shallow level, but are willing to dig deep to make it happen, which is sincerely encouraging. But then on the other hand, they insist on loading Windows 10 up with privac…

Considering how much they are probably spending in order to make this happen (considering the amount of work being done to it), I feel like it was started as a proposal to the head people that there was a group of people that normally wouldn't use windows, but could be convinced to use it by having this subsystem. Along with this, supporting open source makes Microsoft look good.

But, it wasn't anywhere close to enough of an importance for Microsoft to abandon their data collection system just to go "all the way" with the whole open source thing. It seems like their privacy model is more important to them than whatever an open source model could bring them.

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by mnm1 »

smacktoward wrote: post #5

Microsoft is so frustrating. On the one hand, they really seem earnest about wanting to make Windows 10 appealing to people like me who fled Windows for Unix-alike systems long ago. And steps like this show that they're not just addressing that at a shallow level, but are willing to dig deep to make it happen, which is sincerely encouraging. But then on the other hand, they insist on loading Windows 10 up with privac…

What Microsoft is doing with Windows today is not just "competent evil," it's "deliberate competent evil." 90's Microsoft was tolerable. Since Windows 10, they've destroyed the entire Windows ecosystem for anyone that cares about privacy. IMO, that's orders of magnitude worse for everyone. But hey, at least if we find a keylogger in Microsoft software, at least we know it's a feature, not a bug or debugging tool.

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by jabits »

gigatexal wrote: post #17

They can do this all they want but no amount of linux in windows is going to get me back to using it on my main home desktop. I have no choice at work (an all MS stack: c# and sqlserver) but yeah I'll just stick to VMs, docker, or linux on bare-metal. I get the latest kernels, the ability to run anything in the nix ecosystem without arbitrary drawbacks. *Arbitrary is harsh, they did a lot of heavy lifting to get Wind…

Yes this is a really useful comment. It's so good to know what your plans are, and really says something about the link. Thanks...

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by komali2 »

orf wrote: post #6
godmodus wrote: post #3

Hope for fixes for stuff like npm, too.

Fixes for what, specifically?

Perhaps they only used it at the very beginning, when network requests were horribly broken, to the point that you couldn't even do an npm install. I haven't had any issues lately with NPM however.

Don't want to speak for them though so let's see

Re: New Distros Coming to Bash/WSL via Windows Store

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Post by sbarre »

jcrawfordor wrote: post #19
nbevans wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not saying it's not true but I am yet to see any advertisement in my Windows 10 anywhere... even Explorer! Anyone else?

I think people have a bit of a popular misconception about the Explorer advertising thing. What's happening is that MS is adding a banner to Explorer advertising paid OneDrive subscriptions. I totally agree that it's massively inappropriate, but I do think that most people are imagining third-party advertising which is not what's happening - a lot of people might not consider the current situation to be an "ad" neces…

Yeah I don't understand why people are freaking out about this. I know the icon is there, but I never "see" it and I'll never click on it..

So who cares..

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