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U.S. To Ban Laptops in All Cabins of Flights from Europe

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Don't forget about the extra revenue for the airlines from selling more movies on seatback displays.

What seatback displays? Many airlines (the US3 at least) are moving towards the WiFi+bring-your-own-device model.

I fly a lot (mostly in Asia) and I have never been on a flight that doesn't have them.

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One of the advantageous to living in California is that when I go overseas, I can tell people I'm Californian, rather than American. Because people's ideas of CA is 1) LA/Hollywood, 2) SF/SV, 3) Yosemite / Tahoe, you get a pretty different response.

I'm going to judge you by how you act, not where you're from.

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> people who are so self centered that they would demand that Americans risk the very real threat of deadly terrorist attacks (...) Europeans being self-centered? It's us not wanting to hand our computers to USA agencies, known to clone your harddrive and/or implant other crap on it. Agencies who can hold you indefinitely and are affiliated with other 3 letter agencies who do worse. ( See https://arstechnica.com/tech…

I dont think that Europeans are self centered, I think the people complaining about being required to check in their laptops to prevent likely terrorist attacks are being self centered in doing so. The government cant clone or access your information just because you put it in storage rather than carry on.

> I think the people complaining about being required to check in their laptops to prevent likely terrorist attacks are being self centered in doing so.

Since the current administration has a credibility problem, people just think it's ridiculous security theater. Incredible claims require incredible evidence.

>the very real threat of deadly terrorist attacks

Are you trolling? The following is a list of "threats" more real than terrorism: (Note that money would be better spent on teaching the Heimlech maneuver by several orders of magnitude)

Heart Disease Cancer Lung Disease Stroke Alzheimers Diabetes Flu Kidney Disease Suicide Car accident Falling Assault by gun Choking on food

You'd save infinitely more lives since spending on any of these since there will most likely be 0 deaths from airline related terrorism.

So, people are concluding that this is theater designed to deflect away from the firing of Comey, which was executed in the dumbest manner possible.

> The government cant clone or access your information just because you put it in storage rather than carry on.

Of course they can. Someone can go in the hold before takeoff and have their way.

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So your argument is that when the US says they raided an ISIS compound in Yemen and discovered plans to hide bombs inside laptops to blow up planes - this does not qualify as good enough intel to act on? You seem to be using snark as a substitute for defending your proposition through thoughtful analysis and argumentation.

Whether consciously or as satire, your writing imitated Donald Trump's speech style for a second. I believe that's what the other poster was pointing out. America has intel, the best intel, that shows that..

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That anyone still carries a laptop to the US suprises me, considering any client data you have on it they already have the right to demand an unencrypted copy of.

No they don't have "right". Just because a government does something doesn't mean they have the right

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If you told me you were "Californian", I would give you a really weird stare, think for a moment, and then reply with "Oh, American?", while wondering if you thought California was a country. And even then, very few will know the cultural difference between, say, California and Tennessee or Alabama. Just like an American might think of China as one thing with one culture, we generally view USA as one thing with one c…

Total anecdote, but I'm from Tennessee and went to Auburn University (AL), so I guess I'm exactly that, but when I travel abroad (Europe, Middle East, Ukraine) I always tell people "I'm from Memphis, TN" and, almost invariably, the response is "oooohh! Elvis!" It's a fun conversation starter, providing a humanizing connection beyond 'America'.

I live in Memphis, TN... Never been to Alabama. I'm inclined to believe certain parts of Tennessee and Alabama are exactly the same.

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Flying is already such a dreadful thing. Even a one hour flight takes 5-7 hours when you count in all the extras. In my experience, a 1 hour flight like London - Brussels, is not much faster than a 7 hour flight like London - New York. Airports are a text book study in what monopoly and fear mongering politicians do. - On the day of the flight you go from your departure city to the airport somewhere far away in the o…

The 1 hour flight experiance:

1st hour: from city to airport

2+3 hour: checkin line, security line, wait at gate, seating line

4th hour: actually move somewhere through flight

5th hour: passport check, baggage pickup

6th hour: from airport to city

All of the above is true unless you are flying through a small town airport or a pre-80's airport like TXL Berlin, built in 1974 and designed to be duty-free-maze immune

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That anyone still carries a laptop to the US suprises me, considering any client data you have on it they already have the right to demand an unencrypted copy of.

No they don't have "right". Just because a government does something doesn't mean they have the right

The right they have is to deny you entry if you refuse to hand over passwords for your devices. If you are US citizen I think they cannot deny you entry but can take your devices for a period of days.

https://www.eff.org/press/releases/digital-privacy-us-border...

https://www.engadget.com/2017/03/03/the-border-patrol-can-ta...

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/04/bill-rights-border-fif...

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