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Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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I've never made a warranty claim for shoes, so that shouldn't be a problem.

Me neither (too lazy for that), but I know they are used and abused by people too. This leads to funny cases I heard of like a company specifying that some shoes are for "walking", not for "running", and refusing to refund them if you admit to running in them.

That doesn't sound too unreasonable. Some shoes like heels are made for fashion, not function.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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> what you entered, and what should have been entered. If they knew what should have been entered, why couldn't they just automate the data entry?

They extrapolated your accuracy from auditing a relatively small sampling of it, or fed you known-value items and automatically audited them.

Yes, this. I don't know what technique they used. I expect it was known-value variety because they would have better automation in error detection. They may also have used a consensus model, showing work product that really wasn't known value, but was shown to enough different data entry people that the error rate was negated (the error rate requirement was pretty low as I recall) as in a group almost everyone would have done the entry correctly. A third alternative would be to send images that had passed OCR intake for the testing sample.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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You'd be surprised / scared / outraged if you knew how common this is. Any time you've been in a public place for the past few years, you've likely been watched, analysed and optimised for. Advertising in the physical world is just as scummy as it's online equivalent. Check out the video here http://sightcorp.com/ for an ultra creepy overview. You can even try their live demo: https://face-api.sightcorp.com/demo_basi…

I was very unhappy to discover that shoes now often have RFIDs built into soles. This + anti-theft RFIDs readers that are already deployed by the entry of most stores can allow to easily assign unique ids to shoppers.

Most anti-theft tags are not RFID and the gates are not full RFID readers. At least in Europe, vast majority I see are still based on simple resonators that get disabled on checkout. Effectively, the gates only provide a yes/no signal and can't be used for tracking.

Applied Science has a good video on how they work:

https://benkrasnow.blogspot.si/2015/11/how-anti-theft-tags-w...

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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It saddens me that most people refuse to accept that not everybody shares their morals, and that it might be them that are wrong. I'm not saying there isn't an absolute right and wrong, but I certainly don't find this as abhorrent as most people here, apparently.

You'd have a point if this was a general statement, but in the case of automated facial recognition it's almost universally despised across the world. If you're not sharing this position it could be that you are younger or have been subjected to the conditioning of population by industries to make intrusive surveillance technology acceptable to them which has been going on for at least 15+ years afaik.

The point of the person you are replying to is that there isn't a clear consensus that the kind of facial recognition done by the pizza shop sign is unethical. Your argument is that it must be unethical because there is a clear consensus. Where are you getting your data from?

It's fine to speculate about and individual's reasoning for why they believe what they believe but it's entirely useless for determining what the majority believe.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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Counterpoint: this tool pegged my 8-year-old as 13 (and she looks younger than her age) and me as 56... well into the double-digit error zone. Someone recently thought I was 30. People aren't any better than computers.

If it fails, it fails spectacularly, worse than any human ever would.

When I was 18, someone thought I was 35. You apparently don't appreciate how failure-prone humans are.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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It saddens me that there are people in our profession for whom implementing such a thing presents no moral or ethical dilemma.

It saddens me that people are complaining about this yet people are doing way worse in our profession like extorting business for money through ransom-ware, hacking personal information and bank accounts, creating robots that kill people. But no people are worried that while walking around in public place a picture is taken of them and an add is changed to target them.

I wouldn't call writing malware 'our profession'. Maybe you are misinterpreting the meaning of 'Hacker' in 'Hacker news'.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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(Supposedly) Lee Gambles comment on Reddit - "Hi. I am the original taker of the photo. There is a screen that normally shows peppes pizza advertisements in front of peppes pizza in Oslo S. The advertisements had crashed revealing what was running underneath the ads. As I approached the screen to take a picture, the screen began scrolling with my generic information - That I am young male (sorry my profile picture wa…

It is still a BIG ethical issue for some people. Myself I see this as just the natural progression we are headed. If we don't have rules about this kind of technology it will very much be "Minority Report" in a decade.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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You'd be surprised / scared / outraged if you knew how common this is. Any time you've been in a public place for the past few years, you've likely been watched, analysed and optimised for. Advertising in the physical world is just as scummy as it's online equivalent. Check out the video here http://sightcorp.com/ for an ultra creepy overview. You can even try their live demo: https://face-api.sightcorp.com/demo_basi…

I will be honest, I have no real problems with this. Then again I enjoyed some of the concepts for advertising shown in Minority Report which did feature ads which could identify you. the idea of collecting who looked at your display is invaluable. It would be beneficial for both government and ad agency. Ad agency is obvious but government could learn if displays present information people want and it was presented…

Then new Hitler (Erdogan) enters office, and starts using said device to deport infidels like it's 1915.
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