Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

twitter.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

201–210 of 550 posts

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#201

Post by lloeki »

edanm wrote: post #184
tjpnz wrote: post #119

It saddens me that there are people in our profession for whom implementing such a thing presents no moral or ethical dilemma.

It saddens me that most people refuse to accept that not everybody shares their morals, and that it might be them that are wrong. I'm not saying there isn't an absolute right and wrong, but I certainly don't find this as abhorrent as most people here, apparently.

So what am I supposed to do if I find this invading my privacy? Not walk within 10m of such a billboard? It's not like there's any other active way to opt out of this.

I suppose a banner saying "you are being tracked" on tom of such a billboard could have quite an interesting effect. Come to think of it I've seen "Smile, you're being recorded!" in some shops.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#202

Post by jswo3901 »

_kb wrote: post #15

You'd be surprised / scared / outraged if you knew how common this is. Any time you've been in a public place for the past few years, you've likely been watched, analysed and optimised for. Advertising in the physical world is just as scummy as it's online equivalent. Check out the video here http://sightcorp.com/ for an ultra creepy overview. You can even try their live demo: https://face-api.sightcorp.com/demo_basi…

ㅇ

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#203

Post by [deleted] »

amingilani wrote: post #161
_kb wrote: post #15

You'd be surprised / scared / outraged if you knew how common this is. Any time you've been in a public place for the past few years, you've likely been watched, analysed and optimised for. Advertising in the physical world is just as scummy as it's online equivalent. Check out the video here http://sightcorp.com/ for an ultra creepy overview. You can even try their live demo: https://face-api.sightcorp.com/demo_basi…

By grinning like an idiot I was classified as a very happy 33 year old female. I'm a 25 year old male. I tried variations of the standard expressions and pulled off sad, disgust, anger quite easily. I knew binge watching Lie To Me before my psychology mid would come handy at some point!

[deleted]

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#204

Post by bartkappenburg »

_kb wrote: post #15

You'd be surprised / scared / outraged if you knew how common this is. Any time you've been in a public place for the past few years, you've likely been watched, analysed and optimised for. Advertising in the physical world is just as scummy as it's online equivalent. Check out the video here http://sightcorp.com/ for an ultra creepy overview. You can even try their live demo: https://face-api.sightcorp.com/demo_basi…

I've tested it a few times and it's indecisive on my gender and age (depends if I'm smiling, angle etc etc).

Microsoft's service is much more consistent and accurate (I've tested the same images...): https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/cognitive-service...

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#205

Post by cerved »

kristofferR wrote: post #199
dghughes wrote: post #60

male young adult I think they zeroed in on their demographic, good job!

Males are offered meat ads, while females are offered salad ads. Kinda sad in a way.

What kind of psychopat buys sallad at a pizza joint?

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#206

Post by mattcoles »

samtho wrote: post #43

During 2010-2012, I was part of a startup called Clownfish Media. We basically created something very similar to this and got scary accurate results then. Given how accessible computer vision has become, the image in the tweet comes at no surprise to me. Best part - we got a first gen raspberry pi to crunch all the data locally at 2-5fps. Gender, age group (child, youth, teen, young adult, middle age, senior), and ap…

Do you feel it was ethical to work on that?

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#207

Post by HenryBemis »

ibic wrote: post #188
wfunction wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love how people tried it in the first place. Now the site has faces tied to IP addresses.

You can use url, e.g. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Do...

hahahah!!! I did try this image and here are the results (removed plenty of px-related lines). My commentary next to the "
  "error_code": 0,

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#208

Post by ffriend »

As someone working on a similar project (specifically, emotion recognition) I'm highly interested to hear how such a product should look like to be not considered unethical. So far from the comments I see that:

- it should be made clear that you are being analyzed e.g. by big yellow sticker near the camera

- no raw data should be stored

- it should be used to collect statistics, not identify individuals (?)

Is it sufficient to consider such a software as a fair use? What else would you add to the list to make it reasonable?

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#209

Post by tawayway »

ffriend wrote: post #208

As someone working on a similar project (specifically, emotion recognition) I'm highly interested to hear how such a product should look like to be not considered unethical. So far from the comments I see that: - it should be made clear that you are being analyzed e.g. by big yellow sticker near the camera - no raw data should be stored - it should be used to collect statistics, not identify individuals (?) Is it suf…

An opportunity to opt out? If I need to be near the unit for whatever reason I would be more comfortable if I could switch it off.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

#210

Post by fhars »

ffriend wrote: post #208

As someone working on a similar project (specifically, emotion recognition) I'm highly interested to hear how such a product should look like to be not considered unethical. So far from the comments I see that: - it should be made clear that you are being analyzed e.g. by big yellow sticker near the camera - no raw data should be stored - it should be used to collect statistics, not identify individuals (?) Is it suf…

It should work without taking pictures or movement profiles of people that did not give consent in writing or using a qualified digital signature.
Post reply on HN