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Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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Post by lucaspiller »

adenner wrote: post #177
punk_coder wrote: post #39

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I'm not sure if it's true, but a friend once told me the reason a store asked for your zip code was to see if they had a large audience coming from a certain area. This let them know other locations to possibly open other stores.

Sometimes the credit card terminal will ask especially at gas pumps for my zip code as an anti fraud measure, and will reject the transaction of you enter the wrong number. If a cashier is asking I always use 90210.

I had same issue when visiting the US. I tried some fake numbers but it wouldn't accept it (my actual postal code has letters, so that wasn't possible), so I just ended up paying by cash.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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Post by jes5199 »

adventured wrote: post #165
caf wrote: post #145

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Presumably most cashiers would just optimise to pressing the same button on every transaction, since doing it "right" makes no difference observable to them.

Unlikely to be common behavior. The tally would come back at the end of a shift or day and the person doing that would be reprimanded, then fired if it continued. It would be enforced by the manager/s. Now, would they press a random demographic button after that (instead of the same button every time)? Maybe, however there are numerous other ways to increase compliance in that case as well. If the logs kept coming ba…

You're giving the organizations too much credit. A roommate of mine worked at a fast food restaurant in the early 2000s, where they were measuring the speed that workers took orders by timing the transactions on the cash register. The store manager had the brilliant idea to game it by running all cash transactions on pen&paper - not using the register at all! not even the cash drawers! - and then keying in the orders as fast as possible after the fact. The store won an award, the manager got a big bonus.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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Post by jes5199 »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #100
rhizome wrote: post #80

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A defense using makeup and hair: https://ahprojects.com/projects/cv-dazzle/

Hah, looking through all those looks reminds me of the captcha problem though: computers won't be able to detect your face, but neither will people.

Eh, what's so great about other people anyway.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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Post by e12e »

nkkollaw wrote: post #175
e12e wrote: post #172

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I'm pretty sure my 300 friends have given fb more data about me, than I have. [ed: and that doesn't even interlude the tracking from "like"-buttons etc]

Sure, but you can choose not to be on Facebook.

How does that help? Fb will use facial recognition and track you in pictures, build up a friend-graph - and if they can - associate that profile with tracking data from "like"-buttons etc.

You can choose not to use the Internet, or only use hardened devices over tor - but it's not exactly the same as "you can choose not to drink coca cola" (incidentally, it might be difficult in places to completely avoid products by the coca cola company, as opposed to just "coke, the coca cola soft drink").

Added to this, the network effect make fb hard to avoid - people use fb/messenger for a lot of communications, volunteer groups, political groups, education... You are free to argue it's I'll advised (and I agree). But wishful thinking alone does not mean "choosing not to use Facebook", might not include: missing social, educational and work opportunities.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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Post by NTripleOne »

jes5199 wrote: post #192
adventured wrote: post #165

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Unlikely to be common behavior. The tally would come back at the end of a shift or day and the person doing that would be reprimanded, then fired if it continued. It would be enforced by the manager/s. Now, would they press a random demographic button after that (instead of the same button every time)? Maybe, however there are numerous other ways to increase compliance in that case as well. If the logs kept coming ba…

You're giving the organizations too much credit. A roommate of mine worked at a fast food restaurant in the early 2000s, where they were measuring the speed that workers took orders by timing the transactions on the cash register. The store manager had the brilliant idea to game it by running all cash transactions on pen&paper - not using the register at all! not even the cash drawers! - and then keying in the orders…

Hah, that's brilliant.

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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Post by porker »

stirlo wrote: post #146
dis-sys wrote: post #134

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When you go to those weekend open inspections in Sydney, you are almost guaranteed to be asked for your postcode. They record that as well. I actually did some experiments - for different properties in roughly the same area/price range, I told different real estate agents different postcodes. It is beyond reasonable doubt that the code you tell them play a huge role on how they rank you as potential buyers. When you…

If you give them a mobile phone number (which they all ask for) they will simply use that to track you far more closely than than can with a postcode

How? As far as I know a commercial company can't get your location or other personal information just by knowing your mobile phone number?

Re: A crashed advertisement reveals logs of a facial recognition system

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Post by OskarS »

sesteel wrote: post #115
jstanley wrote: post #113

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I'm a man and it thinks I'm a woman. But it also scores me high for anger and sadness, despite (what I thought to be!) a rather neutral expression. Perhaps it knows more than we think :)

Hey! We should make a club. I am a 41 year old male and it recognized me as a 26 year old female. It recognized my wife at her age and gender until she took her glasses off. She lost ten years and stated, "I'm never wearing my glasses again!" Then, proceeded to walk straight into the wall.

As a 30 year old male who apparently looks 42, I hate all of you.
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