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U.S. To Ban Laptops in All Cabins of Flights from Europe

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post #4

That's a bit of a pain. I wonder why a laptop bomb would cause problems in the cabin but not in the cargo hold.

A bomb hidden in the cargo hold is effective if the intent is to simply blow up the plane by timer/remote/altitude. But if the goal is to hijack the plane, then a bomb in hand could be a more convincing negotiation tool.

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#13

So all the terrorists have to do is convince the USA they've figured out how to hide bombs in humans and they'll ban humans from flights.

Given that flights are one of the leading sources of CO2 pollution, maybe this would finally be something where terrorists made a service to humankind.

(I am not being against technology, I just believe that modern humans can live perfectly well with flying much, much less.)

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#14
So what happens if the terrorist first flies to canada... Then the US? Or what if they are already in the US? Is there something so special about the bomb that it can't be made anywhere?

I'm just wondering how this does anything but ensure that battery fires will never be put out.

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post #4

That's a bit of a pain. I wonder why a laptop bomb would cause problems in the cabin but not in the cargo hold.

>That's a bit of a pain. I wonder why a laptop bomb would cause problems in the cabin but not in the cargo hold.

Bags in the cabin can be put right next to the "skin" of the plane; when in the cargo hold, it's much more of a lottery.

(That's what I've read at least, I'm not too familiar with cargo holds myself.)

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post #4

That's a bit of a pain. I wonder why a laptop bomb would cause problems in the cabin but not in the cargo hold.

A laptop bomb would presumably be fairly small in size and would probably have to be placed directly against some sensitive part of the plane in order to be effective. The cargo hold meanwhile is already reinforced and any bomb would most likely end up in a middle of a lot of baggage that would absorb most of the blast. It would probably force the plane to make an emergency landing but it's unlikely to be catastrophi…

The risk with laptops in the cargo hold isn't the blast force of explosions causing a hull breach, but fires. Now any terrorist who wants to bring down a plane simply needs to rig their laptop batteries to catch on fire, which is much, much easier to do than rigging it to explode.

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Before jumping to conclusions we should acknowledge perhaps that US intelligence is hearing increased "chatter" or intel thus the reason for this policy.

Yeah i guess they are. Ever since the existing dumb as fuck laptop ban people have been commenting on how stupid it is. Maybe you should filter your chatter a little better? Or even can the mass surveillance programs that lead to such stupid decisions..

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#20
post #13

So all the terrorists have to do is convince the USA they've figured out how to hide bombs in humans and they'll ban humans from flights.

Given that flights are one of the leading sources of CO2 pollution, maybe this would finally be something where terrorists made a service to humankind. (I am not being against technology, I just believe that modern humans can live perfectly well with flying much, much less.)

I'm not knowledgable about this subject but do you have any sources for that?

After some quick Googling the best numbers I could find state that air travel is responsible for somewhere between 2%-4% of all human induced CO2 emissions and somewhere around 12%-15% of the emissions from transport sources.

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