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An employee who exposed Rothenberg Ventures to the SEC

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Re: An employee who exposed Rothenberg Ventures to the SEC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't listened to the podcast, but according to the backchannel article linked above, the money came from the funds themselves > The $5 million that went into launching River Studios came from Rothenberg Ventures’ second and third funds...One LP says that in a phone call with investors in August after Rothenberg had told them about the River Studios investment in an email, one grilled him on why River Studios was…

Later information is much more vague about this, and one of the core complaints is that he used the management fees of his funds to sponsor companies that arguably competed with holdings of the funds - a serious conflict of interest. This fund was started with a ridiculous fee structure of 17.5% of total investment upfront, and then apparently no going forward fees. Like a "lifetime VPN" subscription, the economics d…

Also from the Backchannel article:

"Several former Rothenberg Ventures and River Studios employees now say they didn’t understand why River Studios was green-lit. One former employee noted that River Studios also competed for clients and market share with at least two of Rothenberg Ventures’ portfolio companies that were already in VR film production, Triggar and vantage.tv. (Triggar didn’t respond to requests for comment, and vantage.tv’s CEO Juan Santillan wrote in an email, “I don’t agree with many of the things that were going on at RV…” but added, “RV[’s] extended team has been great to us.”)"

Re: An employee who exposed Rothenberg Ventures to the SEC

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"That was February 2016. By July, Riordan says, he’d downloaded emails, financial reports, and other records from the network that he says showed the company’s namesake, Chief Executive Officer Mike Rothenberg, was using investor money to fund other projects he owned" That's kind of troubling, depending upon the details. If I hire someone and he starts fishing around on the servers that he has access to, looking to p…

With those ethics, you would be a great soldier.

Please don't get personal like this on Hacker News, no matter what someone has said.

Re: An employee who exposed Rothenberg Ventures to the SEC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you talk to the government? Won't answer that question. You're fired. Of course the SEC is mostly a toothless worm so while he did the right thing, I doubt much will ever happen to the company or its founder.

The SEC is mostly a toothless worm? Really? Can you back that up with some examples of the SEC giving a free pass to companies that defraud investors?

2008 how many company and bank CEOs were convicted of wrong doing?

Re: An employee who exposed Rothenberg Ventures to the SEC

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post #16

"That was February 2016. By July, Riordan says, he’d downloaded emails, financial reports, and other records from the network that he says showed the company’s namesake, Chief Executive Officer Mike Rothenberg, was using investor money to fund other projects he owned" That's kind of troubling, depending upon the details. If I hire someone and he starts fishing around on the servers that he has access to, looking to p…

Why are you assuming he was "fishing around?" He suspected illegal activity, found evidence, and reported it. I don't care how much you're paying me; if I see you punch a guy in the break room, I'm calling the police. This is more like that than it is an employee shirking his duties.

It wasn't punching a guy in the break room. If he was working on the web server or something like that but turned up email and financial records, there was digging involved.

Re: An employee who exposed Rothenberg Ventures to the SEC

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Good for him. That's why we have whistleblower laws in the first place. Most of us have a lot to lose by doing the right thing: damaged job prospects may equate to a large future loss of earnings over your career. Still, history shows plenty of people have paid (and continue to pay) a far higher price than that.

Yup. Whistleblowers are severely disadvantaged. The Theranos whistleblower has had to endure about 400k in legal fees. I also recall reading a story about two police officers (can't remember the city) who tried to reveal corruption in their department, only to be vilified by superiors/fellow officers, have their career trajectory torpedoed, and see people who treated them like garbage eventually elevated in various f…

> The Theranos whistleblower has had to endure about 400k in legal fees.

Shouldn't the SEC or whichever agency they came clean to foot those bills?

Re: An employee who exposed Rothenberg Ventures to the SEC

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If I found out that someone I know (friend, family member, ...) were being deceived by the company, I'd pass the info on to that person (not the government). Otherwise, none of my business. Of course, unless I'm in a position where I'm legally required, like an officer of the company, or accountant or whatever. As someone just doing in-house development or IT work or whatever, no way. The litmus test for whistling is…

I think you've kind of missed the point of ethics entirely.

Re: An employee who exposed Rothenberg Ventures to the SEC

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If I found out that someone I know (friend, family member, ...) were being deceived by the company, I'd pass the info on to that person (not the government). Otherwise, none of my business. Of course, unless I'm in a position where I'm legally required, like an officer of the company, or accountant or whatever. As someone just doing in-house development or IT work or whatever, no way. The litmus test for whistling is…

I think you've kind of missed the point of ethics entirely.

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Re: An employee who exposed Rothenberg Ventures to the SEC

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If I found out that someone I know (friend, family member, ...) were being deceived by the company, I'd pass the info on to that person (not the government). Otherwise, none of my business. Of course, unless I'm in a position where I'm legally required, like an officer of the company, or accountant or whatever. As someone just doing in-house development or IT work or whatever, no way. The litmus test for whistling is…

I think you've kind of missed the point of ethics entirely.

Reading confidential e-mails is unethical, full stop.

Unethical actions which uncover crime are still unethical.

That is why we have warrants, and wiretap laws and all that; how information is obtained matters.

"Any way to nail a criminal" is end-justifies-the-means questionable ethics.

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