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Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

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Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

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But! SNAP is doing AR, Spectacles are a stroke of marketing genius, distributed to cool influencers, instead of boring geeks like Google Glass or HoloLens. \s Guess you can't fool all people all the time.

On the earnings call they reported 5 million snaps taken using Spectacles, and $8 million in revenue from Spectacles this quarter. Maybe 55-60,000 units sold (?). That was the only thing I was curious about on the call.

Is that a significant amount?

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

#72
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> A very key number here is revenue per user [...] this is down from $1.05 (14%) from what it reported for Q4 2016, before its IPO. I disagree a little with Bloomberg here, the numbers are bad (active users isn't great), but given the same number of users you'd expect advertising revenue (which is what they're driven by) to be down Q1 vs Q4. Ad budgets and spending is cyclical and seasonal, far more money is thrown a…

I have snapchat on my phone, not because I use it... my daughter likes to make funny faces. She does NOT post. Am I counted as an active user?

She probably interacts with the sponsored filters and graphics if nothing else.

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

#73
post #68

But! SNAP is doing AR, Spectacles are a stroke of marketing genius, distributed to cool influencers, instead of boring geeks like Google Glass or HoloLens. \s Guess you can't fool all people all the time.

On the earnings call they reported 5 million snaps taken using Spectacles, and $8 million in revenue from Spectacles this quarter. Maybe 55-60,000 units sold (?). That was the only thing I was curious about on the call.

5 Million / 50K (worse if you use 65K) = 100 Snaps per spectacle over a 90 day period = 1 Snap per spectacle per day. Thats super low engagement. For one its not going to alleviate any growth concerns. I see an Apple buyout looming.

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

#74
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the earnings call they reported 5 million snaps taken using Spectacles, and $8 million in revenue from Spectacles this quarter. Maybe 55-60,000 units sold (?). That was the only thing I was curious about on the call.

Is that a significant amount?

Beats me. Maybe they have a warehouse full of them they can't get rid of. Maybe they can barely keep up with demand, I don't know. They're very cheap, it's a minimum viable product, but I'm expecting some next gen product from Snap somewhere down the line that may include some sort of HUD if not full on AR, based on their patents.

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

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But! SNAP is doing AR, Spectacles are a stroke of marketing genius, distributed to cool influencers, instead of boring geeks like Google Glass or HoloLens. \s Guess you can't fool all people all the time.

They fell victim to the 3rd classic blunder, never over-estimate the attention span of teens when your core product offering is on the line

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

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Sluggish user growth probably doesn't look much better when Facebook's overt effort to clone their product seems to be working. Instagram Stories alone already outpaces Snap 200M to 166M. Looks like an uphill battle from here. http://www.thefader.com/2017/04/14/instagram-stories-more-po...

When you put it like that, you have to wonder how they have any chance at all, save some crazy pivot. From a consumer perspective, it's disappointing that Facebook controls itself and now this arena. It's gonna be hard to find innovation when purchasing and cloning are the way to do business. In some circles, having an Instagram is as expected as having Facebook, which makes abstaining difficult.

Maybe people will chase innovation somewhere more useful as a result. That'd be some nice silver lining.

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

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Sluggish user growth probably doesn't look much better when Facebook's overt effort to clone their product seems to be working. Instagram Stories alone already outpaces Snap 200M to 166M. Looks like an uphill battle from here. http://www.thefader.com/2017/04/14/instagram-stories-more-po...

When you put it like that, you have to wonder how they have any chance at all, save some crazy pivot. From a consumer perspective, it's disappointing that Facebook controls itself and now this arena. It's gonna be hard to find innovation when purchasing and cloning are the way to do business. In some circles, having an Instagram is as expected as having Facebook, which makes abstaining difficult.

Snapchat and Instagram definitely offer in somewhat similar spaces. All the semi-famous people I follow on instagram have their snapchat username right there in the profile.

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

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Some quick highlights as to why the stock is being punished. > Adjusted Ebitda Loss $188.2M, Est. Loss $176.9M > 1Q Daily Active Users 166M, Est. 168M > 1Q Rev. $149.6M, Est. $158.6M > 1Q Loss/Shr $2.31 I'm guessing the big issue is the miss on Daily active users. This is the same thing that caused the street ot hammer twitter. Rule of thumb for non profitable tech companies.... If you are a company that isn't making…

I do not think that investors are concern about net loss - at least I'm not. I'm disappointed by anemic growth: Facebook has 18 percent increase year over year. They have ~2B users [1] This q Snapchat had growth of ~5% which will be about ~20% per year. But they are 10x smaller than Facebook. [1] Facebook 5/3/17 earning report

I keep trying to tell people that Snap can't grow to targets unless it opens Asia, and no one in Japan (at least in my first hand anecdotal experience) uses it or even knows what it is.

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

#80
Snapchat will quickly learn than obfuscating growing losses with "Not Meaningful" is swiftly punished by investors...

I know it's not the main reason for the -23% in premarket, but it show a certain culture and disdain for shareholders, in my opinion.

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