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Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

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Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

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Lets not forget that Facebook lost a lot lot of money before finally discovering a way to monetize its services. This is SNAP's first public earnings report. Disclosure: Not a user or stock holder of SNAP

They never lost money at SNAPs rate as a public company.

They never saw the huge dropoff in YoY DAU increase that Snap is seeing either.

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

#33
post #9

Is there any public company that releases earnings in realtime rather than quarterly and/or annually? Has this ever been tried? Is there any rational behind earnings being reported quarterly/annually besides it being aligned with existing regulatory and accounting procedures?

None that I'm aware of. Actually, some people think that quarterly reports are too frequent and cause CEOs to think short term rather than long term and want to do away with quarterly reports.

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

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post #13

Lets not forget that Facebook lost a lot lot of money before finally discovering a way to monetize its services. This is SNAP's first public earnings report. Disclosure: Not a user or stock holder of SNAP

Facebook didn't have a competitor with 20x the market cap doing a great job of rapidly copying their distinguishing features.

Over 1000 Googlers were cranking on Google Plus, which at the time was a Facebook copy cat.

What makes Facebook so threatening to Snapchat is the aggressive cloning in tandem with it's pre-existing, larger network.

By the time Google decided to clone Facebook, the Facebook Graph was already more powerful than the GMail graph (which is what Google Plus was built on).

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

#35
post #16

Some quick highlights as to why the stock is being punished. > Adjusted Ebitda Loss $188.2M, Est. Loss $176.9M > 1Q Daily Active Users 166M, Est. 168M > 1Q Rev. $149.6M, Est. $158.6M > 1Q Loss/Shr $2.31 I'm guessing the big issue is the miss on Daily active users. This is the same thing that caused the street ot hammer twitter. Rule of thumb for non profitable tech companies.... If you are a company that isn't making…

I do not think that investors are concern about net loss - at least I'm not. I'm disappointed by anemic growth: Facebook has 18 percent increase year over year. They have ~2B users [1] This q Snapchat had growth of ~5% which will be about ~20% per year. But they are 10x smaller than Facebook. [1] Facebook 5/3/17 earning report

I saw Scott Hanselman spin up 1000 Azure instances in a demo today; How many bots can each instance support? Instant growth.

How much social media activity/growth is not human?

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

#37
post #9

Is there any public company that releases earnings in realtime rather than quarterly and/or annually? Has this ever been tried? Is there any rational behind earnings being reported quarterly/annually besides it being aligned with existing regulatory and accounting procedures?

You can google accounting and income statement, you'll see why it is done at least quarterly...as a business your operation occurs over a period of time, as such the impact on your books need to be updated accordingly...it is not just a matter of what makes sense but a matter of what is legal, there are accounting rules around how you do things like expensing (rent, depreciating assets..etc) and revenue recognition (can't do it before you deliver service/goods)...I believe quarterly is the wall street standard, I am not sure there is a law requiring it but your shareholders will probably demand it.

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

#38
post #13

Lets not forget that Facebook lost a lot lot of money before finally discovering a way to monetize its services. This is SNAP's first public earnings report. Disclosure: Not a user or stock holder of SNAP

With a company like SNAP, it's not a matter of monetization. It's a matter of growth. SNAP better get its act together or it's gonna end up like YHOO or TWTR looking for another company to buy it out.

FB grew at a faster rate than SNAP from a much bigger base.

Re: Snap Inc. Reports First Quarter 2017 Results

#39
post #19

Some quick highlights as to why the stock is being punished. > Adjusted Ebitda Loss $188.2M, Est. Loss $176.9M > 1Q Daily Active Users 166M, Est. 168M > 1Q Rev. $149.6M, Est. $158.6M > 1Q Loss/Shr $2.31 I'm guessing the big issue is the miss on Daily active users. This is the same thing that caused the street ot hammer twitter. Rule of thumb for non profitable tech companies.... If you are a company that isn't making…

> A very key number here is revenue per user [...] this is down from $1.05 (14%) from what it reported for Q4 2016, before its IPO. I disagree a little with Bloomberg here, the numbers are bad (active users isn't great), but given the same number of users you'd expect advertising revenue (which is what they're driven by) to be down Q1 vs Q4. Ad budgets and spending is cyclical and seasonal, far more money is thrown a…

I have snapchat on my phone, not because I use it... my daughter likes to make funny faces. She does NOT post. Am I counted as an active user?
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