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Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#21

Post by blader » Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 9:44 PM UTC

I haven't downloaded it because the site doesn't inspire confidence that this is anything I want to install on my machine. Some suggestions:

1. Messaging.

I am confused about what Juwo really is as well. It seems to be a way to tag audio or video by time? There is way too much text on the page. I know Juwo probably has a ton of features, but you need to nail down your core message and drill it in (and design your product around it). Can you describe what Juwo is in 5 words or less? Now what about 2 words? Anything longer than that and you've exceeded my attention span.

2. Design

Horizontal scrolling plus web design circa 1995 plus religious proselytizing doesn't inspire confidence that this is something I want to use and would enjoy using. I strongly recommend looking at other websites featuring downloadable apps such as Skype.com or Trillian, etc to see how they are approaching this. This is compounded by the lack of a clear message as to what your product is.

From what I understood of the core idea, it seems useful, but I can't see myself downloading a standalone app for this functionality. Btw, Have you checked out http://www.veotag.com? Seems like a competitor.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#22

Post by juwo » Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 9:44 PM UTC

abstractbill wrote: post #16

I tried the first demo and got this: An error occurred while launching/running the application. Title: Nodepad Vendor: juwo LLC Category: Unexpected Error Unexpected exception: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException

I assume you ran it on Windows? The download JDIC libraries are for Windows. If anyone is good with javascript, we can port it to run on other platforms.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#23

Post by abstractbill » Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 9:56 PM UTC

juwo wrote: post #22

abstractbill wrote: post #16

I tried the first demo and got this: An error occurred while launching/running the application. Title: Nodepad Vendor: juwo LLC Category: Unexpected Error Unexpected exception: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException

I assume you ran it on Windows? The download JDIC libraries are for Windows. If anyone is good with javascript, we can port it to run on other platforms.

Linux (ubuntu). I clicked on the first demo when I saw it, without reading the rest of the front page (which was pretty overwhelming). I didn't see anywhere that would suggest this was a Windows thing until later.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#24

Post by dfranke » Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 10:01 PM UTC

abstractbill wrote: post #17

Your web pages do not render correctly in firefox: http://abstractnonsense.com/juwo.png

Works for me.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#25

Post by juwo » Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 10:07 PM UTC

blader wrote: post #21

I haven't downloaded it because the site doesn't inspire confidence that this is anything I want to install on my machine. Some suggestions: 1. Messaging. I am confused about what Juwo really is as well. It seems to be a way to tag audio or video by time? There is way too much text on the page. I know Juwo probably has a ton of features, but you need to nail down your core message and drill it in (and design your pro…

It goes much further than veotag IMHO. I have a comparison matrix with with competitors, including veotag.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#26

Post by juwo » Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 10:09 PM UTC

abstractbill wrote: post #23

juwo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume you ran it on Windows? The download JDIC libraries are for Windows. If anyone is good with javascript, we can port it to run on other platforms.

Linux (ubuntu). I clicked on the first demo when I saw it, without reading the rest of the front page (which was pretty overwhelming). I didn't see anywhere that would suggest this was a Windows thing until later.

I really apologize. I am not a Windows guy myself. (Read my rant on how Java harmed Unix and helped windows win).

It is my major priority to get it working on Linux and Mac.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#27

Post by juwo » Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 10:10 PM UTC

dpapathanasiou wrote: post #20

juwo wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean, show the media player in the browser? Or should I draw the link for the demo in large font? Actually, juwo is great for people with ADD. you can sit in a class and record lectures - and then review only the important parts. I have some kind of ADD myself - and use juwo in important meetings.

Basically, lose everything from the BBC page except the href to the clip you want to show and put it inside a "juwo" page, consistent with everything else on your site. For a while there, I thought I was at bbcnews.com and I started reading all these extraneous links and photos.

the point is that a visitor to the BBC page would click on the video link, and a juwo of the video would pop up.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#28

Post by blader » Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 10:12 PM UTC

juwo wrote: post #25

blader wrote: post #21

I haven't downloaded it because the site doesn't inspire confidence that this is anything I want to install on my machine. Some suggestions: 1. Messaging. I am confused about what Juwo really is as well. It seems to be a way to tag audio or video by time? There is way too much text on the page. I know Juwo probably has a ton of features, but you need to nail down your core message and drill it in (and design your pro…

It goes much further than veotag IMHO. I have a comparison matrix with with competitors, including veotag.

I think the difference is that I can understand what Veotag is in about 2 seconds, and I am still trying to figure you what Juwo is after really reading about it and thinking about it, and I did that only because I was asked to check it out.

More features does not a better product make. More importantly, you can have 100x times Veotag's features, but it won't matter unless you can make people understand, instantly what your product is.

Now I imagine I'm a random stranger on the internet stumbling across your site. You really have less than 5 seconds of time before I click off back to YouTube or something. I just don't have that much attention.

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#29

Post by juwo » Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 10:13 PM UTC

abstractbill wrote: post #17

Your web pages do not render correctly in firefox: http://abstractnonsense.com/juwo.png

that's weird - it is straight html, done in dreamweaver 8.

thank you for taking the trouble to get the screenshot. I shall run it from firefox on Linux

Re: juwo beta is released (at last!). Please use it and help improve it!

#30

Post by juwo » Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 10:15 PM UTC

wammin wrote: post #18

Too many words! This is my most common criticism for evaluating an interface. If you need so many words on the home page to describe how to do something or what it is, then it's not easy enough. Remember you only have about 20 seconds of somebody's attention before they decide to click away. I got lost pretty quick (and I'm actually pretty smart). The crap about Jesus on the about page turned me off, too. You're welc…

I read that people dont want to click, but scrolling is ok - I thought that was the lecture at startup school? (I saw a breief note on it here on this site)

the condensation is at the diagrams on the right.

Should I move the diagrams left?

I am stubborn about Jesus; even though I have lost a lot of good opportunities because of it.