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No, The U.S. Didn’t Just ‘Discover’ a $1 Trillion Afghan Motherlode

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Re: No, The U.S. Didn’t Just ‘Discover’ a $1 Trillion Afghan Motherlode

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I guess what I don't understand is why thought this was good news. Look around the world at countries whose economies depend on non-labor-intensive natural resource extraction. Saudi Arabia, Russia, etc. These resources form a natural monopoly and quickly become the subject of political power.

Seems to be going great for Norway.

Re: No, The U.S. Didn’t Just ‘Discover’ a $1 Trillion Afghan Motherlode

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Regardless of the political motivations that sparked the announcement, I was excited to hear about it. I became interested in Afghanistan in 2001, along with everybody else. Before that, my only exposure to the country was my reading of "The Man who would be King", by Kipling. Everything that I've heard about the Afghanistan economy has had to do with opium and heroin. To have it announced that there was a very real…

I don't think it's fair to say that "everybody else" ignored Afghanistan until 2001. The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was one of the more important events of the Cold War and was widely watched by the world.

Re: No, The U.S. Didn’t Just ‘Discover’ a $1 Trillion Afghan Motherlode

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New or not, this story in the NYTimes at least brought an old perspective to the new generation. Lot more people (due to Lithium take of the story) is now aware of the potential of Afghanistan, irrespective of the conspiracy theories etc.

I'm still not sure it will have an effect. Those for whom lithium mining represents a commercial possibility almost certainly already new about it from before - so what stopped investment then?

I don't buy the concept that this fixes more problems than it causes.

Re: No, The U.S. Didn’t Just ‘Discover’ a $1 Trillion Afghan Motherlode

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The refute the discovery by citing a report from 2007 that says "Afghanistan has significant amounts of undiscovered nonfuel mineral resources".

How does someone previously citing undiscovered resources contradict the idea of those resources now being discovered?

Re: No, The U.S. Didn’t Just ‘Discover’ a $1 Trillion Afghan Motherlode

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post #3

I guess what I don't understand is why thought this was good news. Look around the world at countries whose economies depend on non-labor-intensive natural resource extraction. Saudi Arabia, Russia, etc. These resources form a natural monopoly and quickly become the subject of political power.

Seems to be going great for Norway.

Canada too.

Re: No, The U.S. Didn’t Just ‘Discover’ a $1 Trillion Afghan Motherlode

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Regardless of the political motivations that sparked the announcement, I was excited to hear about it. I became interested in Afghanistan in 2001, along with everybody else. Before that, my only exposure to the country was my reading of "The Man who would be King", by Kipling. Everything that I've heard about the Afghanistan economy has had to do with opium and heroin. To have it announced that there was a very real…

Your demographic is showing. Some of us became interested in Afghanistan back in '79, when the Soviets invaded, and President Carter (remember him?) re-instated draft registration. Seemed pretty important at the time, but seems to be forgotten now...

Maybe a large part of the audience here is born in the 80s?!

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post #3

I guess what I don't understand is why thought this was good news. Look around the world at countries whose economies depend on non-labor-intensive natural resource extraction. Saudi Arabia, Russia, etc. These resources form a natural monopoly and quickly become the subject of political power.

I guess it's a good thing we replaced the Taliban with the CIA then.

The US replaced the Soviets with the Taliban first.

Re: No, The U.S. Didn’t Just ‘Discover’ a $1 Trillion Afghan Motherlode

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Regardless of the political motivations that sparked the announcement, I was excited to hear about it. I became interested in Afghanistan in 2001, along with everybody else. Before that, my only exposure to the country was my reading of "The Man who would be King", by Kipling. Everything that I've heard about the Afghanistan economy has had to do with opium and heroin. To have it announced that there was a very real…

> To have it announced that there was a very real possibility that there may be a way to grow their economy in a very real and significant way, and a way that benefits the rest of the world, rather than harms it, is exciting news to me.

How about educating the population, improving the infrastructure and so on? Lots of places without any real natural resources seem to do fine.

Re: No, The U.S. Didn’t Just ‘Discover’ a $1 Trillion Afghan Motherlode

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada too.

Those places have good government, I guess that's what saves them.

I guess so, but then the claim boils down to:

- It is bad to be resource rich and have a bad government.

- It is good to be resource rich and have a good government.

Why not instead just say

- How good things are will significantly depend on how good the government is.

Since that claim holds true for both resource rich and resource poor countries.

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