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Opera is Reborn

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Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by wapz »

gagabity wrote: post #58
bigbugbag wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not an expert in google's android but could it be that the uninstall process ends by firing up a web page ?

No there it doesn't, on Android you cant do anything after the actual uninstall as far as I am aware.

They were probably using the Opera browser to check for the OperaVPN uninstall [1]. This may actually be possible in the app itself as I believe the intent fires before the app is actually uninstalled giving you time to do one last action (fire up a uninstall questionnaire).

https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Inte...

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by bigbugbag »

rcgs wrote: post #78

I think this is the 3rd or 4th time Opera has been reborn in recent memory? I actually quite like where they're going with the user experience. But who owns Opera now?

A mix of google who owns the engine opera runs on and a consortium of chinese investors called Golden Brick Capital Private Equity Fund I Limited Partnership who bought it from Opera ASA summer 2016 after they were prevented from buying the whole Opera ASA company.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by zimbatm »

xbenjii wrote: post #82

Some shady stuff going on in an injected browser.js file: https://gist.github.com/xbenjii/2048d8edf135b04790be593ee69e...

Those look like browser-compatibility fixes, mainly changing the user user agent to chrome on some websites. Or did I miss something?

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by neotek »

Macuyiko wrote: post #89
xbenjii wrote: post #82

Some shady stuff going on in an injected browser.js file: https://gist.github.com/xbenjii/2048d8edf135b04790be593ee69e...

Not really. All of these are mostly user agent modifications to pretend to be Chrome to make certain sites work, as well as some JavaScript event modification (with a similar purpose). The only "shady" thing is hiding the Chrome ad on Google's home page, though I guess you can consider that as a convenience once you decide to switch fully to another browser. I don't know how easy it would be to pull an update for tha…

Why would they need to update browser.js to do something shady, they can just drop in a brand new binary that does whatever they want it to do and the vast majority of users would be none the wiser.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by neotek »

coldtea wrote: post #85
jug wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did China's Great Internet Firewall and eager to control how their population access the web somehow pass you? I am not racist, I am not placing this blame on a Chinese person's race, persona, or anything. This isn't about the governed Chinese people in the first place.

> Did China's Great Internet Firewall and eager to control how their population access the web somehow pass you? No, neither the US's Great Internet Surveillance, and long track record of working with, arming, helping, and installing in power dictators and friendly lackeys all around the world, from Latin America to Europe.

How is that relevant in any way to the topic at hand? It's just pure whataboutism.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by shakna »

bigbugbag wrote: post #69
jug wrote: post #40

I don't dare to use this since Opera got bought by that Chinese consortium of companies I'm not accustomed with. Not sure if I'm overly cautious? I'm thinking of especially Opera Link (which had a recent security breach to boot!). Wouldn't that leave out my passwords to China? And I do want to use some sort of syncing, I'd go crazy without anything there or some iffy third party addon. It's not even just about a trus…

Is this limited to Opera and China ? This kind of reasoning also applies to facebook, any alphabet or google product/service, apple, uber, airbnb, and pretty much any company/service that's based in the US where the patriot act pretty much makes all these companies open bar for the US government.

There is a difference between the engine I use to access a large variety of websites, and a single website/service.

Re: Opera is Reborn

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Post by toyg »

coldtea wrote: post #85
jug wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did China's Great Internet Firewall and eager to control how their population access the web somehow pass you? I am not racist, I am not placing this blame on a Chinese person's race, persona, or anything. This isn't about the governed Chinese people in the first place.

> Did China's Great Internet Firewall and eager to control how their population access the web somehow pass you? No, neither the US's Great Internet Surveillance, and long track record of working with, arming, helping, and installing in power dictators and friendly lackeys all around the world, from Latin America to Europe.

That's a bit of a false equivalence. Letting me do something while you watch is not the same as you stopping (and punishing) me from doing it right away. You can argue which one is worse from a moral perspective, but they are not the same.

As for the shitty foreign policy - if I had to buy only stuff produced in "ethical" countries, I'd be living naked and eating only dried fish.

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