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I get thousands of emails a day. I have several email accounts as I switch to a new one because the old one got a lot of spam. I email my friends and family my new email but they keep writing to my old emails. Message filter helps me sort stuff into different folders to find important emails and attachments.
Last year when donating specifically to Thunderbird was made possible on mozilla.org, I donated to the project because it has provided a lot of value over the years. Recently I started looking at the discussions on the tb-planning mailing list and it looks like we'll get a revamped (fully rewritten) Thunderbird. That sounds like a very long project to me - probably a few years just to bring it to what Thunderbird alr…
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Have you been using it in an enterprise scenario? Essentially the main email clients people use, Outlook etc, all default to HTML emails these days. Plus there is a big love of embedded images in signatures, different fonts around the text in their signatures.. all sorts of stuff. Roughly 90% of the direct email I receive in my inbox comes through in HTML form. Plain text is more often coming from mailing lists and a…
> Have you been using it in an enterprise scenario? Yeah, sort of, an academic/hospital setting. Actually, I combined my academic and personal e-mail addresses into one at a custom domain, and forward other accounts to it, which annoys some colleagues. Most people here use Outlook. Sometimes people might have a mailto: link in sig (which gives me a chuckle as it's pointless), but I don't ever remember encountering em…
If only! My alma mater always uses the subject "Important message from ". It never is.
> A Bright Future > The long term plan is to migrate our code to web technologies
What we really need is a good way to execute desktop apps as if they were web services: accessible from nearly any device, access to your data with minimal complication wherever you happen to sign in from, and a lightweight, instant-response, zero-install interaction model. If we value "native clients", we need to address the things that make web clients more convenient.
I think the closest thing we have is the remote desktop protocol. I have used Thunderbird on my desktop via the rdp client I have installed on my phone (though with some degree of difficulty due to the interface and input limitations).
I think something like that could work if rdp clients provided a better interface for clients not using a desktop computer.
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That fully rewritten Thunderbird will apparently be based on Electron, the Javascript GUI. The CPU-thrashing, memory hungry, battery killer Electron. I do not want an email client, or any other software that is meant to run constantly in the background, to be written in Election.
Why are you spreading this information, when you know no such thing has been decided?
My CS instructor once asked everyone in the class to "raise you hand if you still use an email client." My hand was the only one that went up, and a couple of people laughed and said "really?" I think that was almost 10 years ago.
I don't get how anyone (that are somewhat computer savvy) can live without one. Sure, webmail is an awesome backup for when you don't use your main device. But seriously, gmail and the like are absolutely horrible to use compared to a real client. I guess the sad state of affair in regards to email syncing protocols (POP3 and IMAP) are partly to blame, JMAP might help a little but I guess it's too late.
+ 2+ minute wait for new emails to hit my inbox, + spinning wheel every time I load the inbox, and + oddly formatted html mail from coworkers.
Maybe those issues are to do with google's slow imap servers, but I finally realized no matter where the issues come from I need to get work done. That can't happen with the combination of gmail, large accounts, and any external client I know of.
And I have to say, after installing a keyboard plugin I can read email without using the mouse. Something I never got right with t-bird.
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I also like that Thunderbird exists, I don't use it, but my wife does. That said, if you want a web-hosted client for standard email, why not give self-hosting RainLoop a try?
After reading about rainloop I could see wanting to run it locally, but as soon as you put it on a VM somewhere you're create a very public access point for all of your email accounts if that server gets compromised aren't you? Seems like creating a weak link on purpose.
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I don't get how anyone (that are somewhat computer savvy) can live without one. Sure, webmail is an awesome backup for when you don't use your main device. But seriously, gmail and the like are absolutely horrible to use compared to a real client. I guess the sad state of affair in regards to email syncing protocols (POP3 and IMAP) are partly to blame, JMAP might help a little but I guess it's too late.
What are you doing that's so complicated with email? I get email. I read them. I archive them. I only interact with each email for about 10s and then it's gone, usually forever. Very occasionally I need to search for something in the archive. I also need to send so I just need a text box to write in and somewhere to drop attachments. What else is there that you need in a client?
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Being able to search through old emails and conversations. Finding an attachment someone sent last week that you didn't have time to look at until now. Finding a long set of instructions you sent to someone two years ago so you can forward it to someone else.
But searching seems like something that is definitely don't better as a web service with people like Google and their extremely sophisticated and proprietary searching and natural language analysis algorithms. That's a reason to use web services rather than local clients.
That they use to read your emails, harvest your data and advertise to you.