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President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by jasonlotito »

buckbova wrote: post #59
cloudwalking wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not true. Rolling back regulations on green house gas emissions, removing regulations on clean water, denying healthcare to millions of people... Those deaths cannot be undone, the aquifers cannot be cleaned, and the carbon can't be removed from the atmosphere.

Let's tone down the hyperbole. Edit: I don't like having a political argument in this forum. I don't want hn to turn into r/politics. I'm not swayed by emotional pleas from celebrities or others crying about a bill they haven't read. Who are these folks dying by the millions? From what I see mortality rates rose since obamacare came about: "We know that the same year Obamacare’s insurance expansion provisions took ef…

It's that sort of attitude that really hurts people. My children those that suffered because of attitudes like that. This affects people's lives. It's not hyperbole. It's real.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by whistlerbrk »

newsat13 wrote: post #29

Can someone clarify if comey is pro trump or not?

Comey is a boy scout. He is righteous man for better or worse, has conservative leanings, but he is considered an honorable man especially for his actions during Ashcroft's hospitalization

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by the_cat_kittles »

jjordan wrote: post #44

Say what you want about the politics, but it's inarguable that Comey, whether he wanted to or not, had become a partisan lightning rod for both sides. The unbiased credibility of the FBI was at stake with Comey at the helm, and this is probably a good move for the country.

i agree he fucked up, but it strains credulity to think that the timing of this has anything to do with that. so, your first point is correct, but its not a good move for the country because, in all likelihood, its just a way for trump to protect himself from getting busted. i think you are blinded by partisanship if firing Comey now does not raise suspicion in you. if trump is guilty of money laundering / collusion / bribery / ??, which seems reasonably likely to me, it would be better for everyone if that came to light and was punished yes?

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by nameless912 »

grizzles wrote: post #80

He was too much of a wildcard. Trump wants to wrap up the Russia thing and he needs someone who is more subservient to do that.

This is an interesting card to play if that's indeed his goal. Trump doesn't get to appoint an "acting" head of the FBI AFAIK, he can only recommend a new director, and you can bet your ass that the DNC won't let that slide without a bigly fight at the confirmation hearing.

This move really doesn't make a lot of sense, I don't know what Trump gains here other than a few weeks of pretending he won.

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Post by anigbrowl »

acdha wrote: post #96
fooey wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The looming senate fight to confirm a replacement is going to be absolutely massive.

That depends on how well the GOP sticks together: they only need a simple majority vote to confirm.

The more hurriedly they rush it through, the more political capital they're putting at risk. This (as in the whole ball of wax) is already shaping up to be a larger political upset than anything in most Americans' living memory.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by the_cat_kittles »

dguaraglia wrote: post #89
jjordan wrote: post #44

Say what you want about the politics, but it's inarguable that Comey, whether he wanted to or not, had become a partisan lightning rod for both sides. The unbiased credibility of the FBI was at stake with Comey at the helm, and this is probably a good move for the country.

... depending on who replaces him. If we are going by previous appointments (Jeff Sessions) we could get a complete partisan hack undermining the FBI for political gain.

the appointment needs confirmation, so at least we can hope that some people will say no to obvious patsies.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by dguaraglia »

liquidise wrote: post #92
TheBiv wrote: post #4

"Trump just fired the man leading a counterintelligence investigation into his campaign, on the same day that the Senate Intelligence commitee requested financial documents relating to Trump's business dealings from the treasury department that handles money laundering." -Comment from reddit that sums up how strange this is.

The implication of this comment only holds if the replacement FBI Director drops the investigation. The FBI Director themselves are not conducting the investigation, but have instructed the investigation to be conducted. It stands that we should expect the investigation to continue in Comey's absence. Should it cease, this comment would gain merit. The reasons cited for the dismissal appear valid on their face: the h…

How childish is it that they had to put in the termination letter something about "thanks for telling me three separate times there's no investigation ON ME"? It's almost like this administration is run by 8 year olds.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by wonderwonder »

res0nat0r wrote: post #41
TheBiv wrote: post #4

"Trump just fired the man leading a counterintelligence investigation into his campaign, on the same day that the Senate Intelligence commitee requested financial documents relating to Trump's business dealings from the treasury department that handles money laundering." -Comment from reddit that sums up how strange this is.

The man at the FBI leading the investigation into the Trump / Russia connection was fired upon recommendation from Sessions who said he was recusing himself from all Russia / Trump investigations. Looking corrupt as hell? Most certainly.

Trump also complained that senate rules were unfair to him and congratulated Erdogan on seizing more power and is meeting with Duterte. He just wants to be a strongman and is not afraid to remove obstacles.
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