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President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by cloudwalking »

colemannugent wrote: post #46

A friendly reminder to both sides that whatever the current administration does, the next can undo. This is especially important when the majority party decides to give itself more power and inadvertently gives their successors more than they intended.

This is not true. Rolling back regulations on green house gas emissions, removing regulations on clean water, denying healthcare to millions of people... Those deaths cannot be undone, the aquifers cannot be cleaned, and the carbon can't be removed from the atmosphere.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by gregshap »

jjordan wrote: post #44

Say what you want about the politics, but it's inarguable that Comey, whether he wanted to or not, had become a partisan lightning rod for both sides. The unbiased credibility of the FBI was at stake with Comey at the helm, and this is probably a good move for the country.

Perhaps the country is better served by someone disliked by both sides than by someone handpicked for their loyalty to Trump.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by [deleted] »

dekhn wrote: post #21
Matt3o12_ wrote: post #7

Well I would be certainly interested in the circumstances especially considering that I always believed he was pro trump. Some even said he played an important role Trump won the election because he opened an investigation into Clinton's emails right before the election.

that's not what he did. there already was an investigation. What comey announced right before the elections was that they had found more of clinton's emails in another, unrelated case. That invesigation was into Anthony Weiner, who was married to Clinton's advisor Huma Abedin. Weiner was sexting a 15-year-old, Abedin was forwarding some emails to weiner's computer to be printed out. In investigating weiner's computer…

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Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by briandear »

Sargos wrote: post #15
mtgx wrote: post #9

Hopefully there's a silver lining and that this means the encryption backdoor push (led by Comey) will slow to a crawl or be forgotten. He was already preparing a push for FISA Amendments renewal together with Dianne Feinstein (who is apparently having a change of heart about her own retirement).

Don't count on it. Trump will likely put someone very right wing into the position and the attack on encryption will intensify.

So the right wing wants to reduce encryption? And the left doesn't? Republican Senator Rand Paul has been at the forefront of fighting for privacy protections. Chuck Schumer sure hasn't.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by fooey »

drewbug01 wrote: post #26
fooey wrote: post #20

Seemed to be confirmed as real, so here are letters being floated as from Trump, Sessions and Rosenstein firing Comey and blaming the Clinton investigation Trump: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_apTsDXoAAVKYn.jpg AG Sessions: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_apUYrXgAAihp2.jpg Deputy AG Rosenstein: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_apVImXcAIKhfm.jpg Dear Director Comey: I have received the attached letters from the Attorney Ge…

It's linked in the sidebar on the NYT article: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/us/politics/james-comey-f... https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/09/us/politics/d...

Honestly, I was hoping the Trump letter at least was satire.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by throwaway5752 »

jjordan wrote: post #44

Say what you want about the politics, but it's inarguable that Comey, whether he wanted to or not, had become a partisan lightning rod for both sides. The unbiased credibility of the FBI was at stake with Comey at the helm, and this is probably a good move for the country.

The FBI was investigating the president for colluding with a hostile state to influence the election and aid them against the interests of the US. This is the worst thing to happen to the country since Watergate or longer.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by ianai »

abalashov wrote: post #13

I'm pretty sure the customary reply from the MAGA camp will be that these are all political appointees, and serve at the President's pleasure. All that is formally true. But it doesn't make it any less uncanny that such a person would be fired at the very moment he ramps up an investigation into Trump's business activities.

That argument only flies early in the administration, like the first 14 days. We're at day 110+ (I'm not counting). This was done immediately after Comey talked to congress about an investigation into the administration. This can lead to nothing less than an independent commission into Trump.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Post by buckbova »

cloudwalking wrote: post #51
colemannugent wrote: post #46

A friendly reminder to both sides that whatever the current administration does, the next can undo. This is especially important when the majority party decides to give itself more power and inadvertently gives their successors more than they intended.

This is not true. Rolling back regulations on green house gas emissions, removing regulations on clean water, denying healthcare to millions of people... Those deaths cannot be undone, the aquifers cannot be cleaned, and the carbon can't be removed from the atmosphere.

Let's tone down the hyperbole.

Edit:

I don't like having a political argument in this forum. I don't want hn to turn into r/politics.

I'm not swayed by emotional pleas from celebrities or others crying about a bill they haven't read. Who are these folks dying by the millions? From what I see mortality rates rose since obamacare came about:

"We know that the same year Obamacare’s insurance expansion provisions took effect, there was a pronounced, and statistically significant, surge in U.S. adult mortality."

http://thefederalist.com/2017/04/25/running-numbers-mortalit...

So you can get some facts together or continue crying. Your choice.

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