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President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Well I would be certainly interested in the circumstances especially considering that I always believed he was pro trump. Some even said he played an important role Trump won the election because he opened an investigation into Clinton's emails right before the election.

He was pressured by Trump partisans in the FBI and elsewhere (in accordance with his obligations) to release that and Obama blocked him from writing an Op-ed about Trump before the election.

I think he genuinely tried to stay neutral but the GOP partisans threatened to leak stuff so he tried to do damage control ineffectually.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/report-obama-re...

> Report: Obama Rejected Comey Op-Ed on Russia’s Election Meddling

http://www.newsweek.com/fbi-reviewing-more-clinton-emails-51...

> The truth is Comey didn’t have a choice. Because the new information followed his sworn testimony about the case, Comey was obligated by Department of Justice rules to keep the relevant committees apprised.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-28/leaked-memo-james-c...

> Now, it is the democrats turn to rage at Comey and the FBI, although Comey likely did not have much choice: had he kept the information secret, it certainly would have leaked as we predicted; as such his best recourse was to come clean, although many have speculated about the cryptic nature of the disclosure.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/02/james-comey-fbi-direc...

> The story broke in the Daily Mail on September 21, and the F.B.I. seized the laptop on October 3. Within a couple of days, the New York F.B.I. agents, who had a warrant to look only at Weiner-related information, knew there were Clinton e-mails on the laptop, and the prosecutors in D.C. were informed.

> Often, a retired agent says, those in the field are suspicious of Washington. “Dreamland,” they called it in his day, because they believed those who weren’t on the ground investigating cases were clueless. “[Agents] out in the field never want to give a case to D.C., because they believe headquarters is a hindrance to their investigations,” says the agent, who also notes there is a paranoia that politics might interfere at headquarters. New York has an especially dim view of Washington and a reputation for fierce independence. “There is a renegade quality to the New York F.B.I.,” says a former prosecutor, which, he claims, can take the form of agents leaking to the press to advance their own interests or to influence an investigation. “New York leaks like a sieve,” concurs another former prosecutor

> Comey chose Washington because he wanted to be close enough to get daily updates, according to CNN, but he may also have been worried about leaks from New York. A former D.O.J. official says that, as early as 2015, a rumor was floating around that the F.B.I. agents in New York were cracking jokes about seeing Hillary Clinton in handcuffs. “It was widely understood that there was a faction in that office that couldn’t stand her and was out to get her,” this person says.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/31/1589230/-Only-One-U... > When Bill Clinton took office in January , 1993, his FBI Director was William S. Sessions, serving an appointment made by Ronald Reagan at the time of the Iran-Contra affair. Making it clear that the new President did not want the Republican FBI Director in his Administration, Clinton’s newly appointed Attorney General, Janet Reno, quietly pressured Mr…

Big difference between that and outright firing. Behind the scenes pressure is politics as usual.

Sorry I quoted the wrong bit. He was actually fired.

> ut the stubborn Republican FBI Director refused to go voluntarily, finally provoking Bill Clinton to telephone Mr. Sessions on July 20, 1993. The President called twice. The first call was to tell the Director he was fired. The second was to tell the Director it was effective immediately. That’s cold, man.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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I'm pretty sure the customary reply from the MAGA camp will be that these are all political appointees, and serve at the President's pleasure.

All that is formally true. But it doesn't make it any less uncanny that such a person would be fired at the very moment he ramps up an investigation into Trump's business activities.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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"Trump just fired the man leading a counterintelligence investigation into his campaign, on the same day that the Senate Intelligence commitee requested financial documents relating to Trump's business dealings from the treasury department that handles money laundering." -Comment from reddit that sums up how strange this is.

SEE EDIT

~~ He also fired the federal judge who ruled against him in Hawaii. So it's not like this is new behavior. ~~

Don't worry though, this is fine.

Ed:

I'm likely misremembering bluster as taking action, since I can't find specific citations. So I retract the comment, and would strike through it (I don't like deleting text), but don't know if I can on HN.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Hopefully there's a silver lining and that this means the encryption backdoor push (led by Comey) will slow to a crawl or be forgotten. He was already preparing a push for FISA Amendments renewal together with Dianne Feinstein (who is apparently having a change of heart about her own retirement).

Don't count on it. Trump will likely put someone very right wing into the position and the attack on encryption will intensify.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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post #4

"Trump just fired the man leading a counterintelligence investigation into his campaign, on the same day that the Senate Intelligence commitee requested financial documents relating to Trump's business dealings from the treasury department that handles money laundering." -Comment from reddit that sums up how strange this is.

Yeah, that was one of my first thoughts about this. I have no love lost for Comey but there's a huge conflict of interest here with Trump and I think the reasons for Trump firing Comey are not the reasons I would want him fired. Comey was doing a balancing act, playing one constituency against another.

It seems like Trump is purging everyone who might provide any level of oversight whatsoever.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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post #4

"Trump just fired the man leading a counterintelligence investigation into his campaign, on the same day that the Senate Intelligence commitee requested financial documents relating to Trump's business dealings from the treasury department that handles money laundering." -Comment from reddit that sums up how strange this is.

Trump is probably laundering money himself.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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post #4

"Trump just fired the man leading a counterintelligence investigation into his campaign, on the same day that the Senate Intelligence commitee requested financial documents relating to Trump's business dealings from the treasury department that handles money laundering." -Comment from reddit that sums up how strange this is.

That is quite surreal: http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/senate-russia-investi...

Would there be any collaboration between the FBI and Senate Intelligence committee?

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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post #4

"Trump just fired the man leading a counterintelligence investigation into his campaign, on the same day that the Senate Intelligence commitee requested financial documents relating to Trump's business dealings from the treasury department that handles money laundering." -Comment from reddit that sums up how strange this is.

SEE EDIT ~~ He also fired the federal judge who ruled against him in Hawaii. So it's not like this is new behavior. ~~ Don't worry though, this is fine . Ed: I'm likely misremembering bluster as taking action, since I can't find specific citations. So I retract the comment, and would strike through it (I don't like deleting text), but don't know if I can on HN.

Do you have a link for that?

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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Seemed to be confirmed as real, so here are letters being floated as from Trump, Sessions and Rosenstein firing Comey and blaming the Clinton investigation

Trump: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_apTsDXoAAVKYn.jpg

AG Sessions: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_apUYrXgAAihp2.jpg

Deputy AG Rosenstein: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_apVImXcAIKhfm.jpg

  Dear Director Comey:

  I have received the attached letters from the Attorney General and Deputy Attorney General of the United States recommending your dismissal as the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. I have accepted their recommendation and you are hereby terminated and removed from office, effective immediately.

  While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the Bureau.

  It it essential that we find new leadership for the FBI that restores public trust and confidence in its vital law enforcement mission.

  I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.
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