Why does she need to shadow a student to learn what it's like to be a student? Wasn't she a student once herself? These things are pretty obvious. I always just assumed teachers didn't care.
I was a student of calculus once. But it was long ago and I no longer remember what it was like. Human memory is bad and we are prone to hyperbole when it comes to recalling struggles/good times. A reminder is not a bad idea from time to time. I suppose there are past experiences that you have forgotten what it was really like.
Teacher spends two days as a student (2014)
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#53Sitting for hours is bad ok... For a long time I was a smoker, I would often walk out of the building with others, and take a break. Talking about their or my problem of the minute. One of the other engineers who DIDNT smoke started coming out with us when we went. After a few weeks he noted out loud how his productivity had been UP since he started taking the journey with us. It seems counter intuitive that getting…
Since when is it counter-intuitive that exercise is good? I'd have thought the opposite.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
> School barely gave me basics in 13 years and I could of learned all of that in less than a year. Oh the irony...
what's the irony here ? asking for a friend.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
> School barely gave me basics in 13 years and I could of learned all of that in less than a year. Oh the irony...
what's the irony here ? asking for a friend.
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#56Why does she need to shadow a student to learn what it's like to be a student? Wasn't she a student once herself? These things are pretty obvious. I always just assumed teachers didn't care.
Never attribute to malice what can be explained through ignorance.
Indifference in this case. Anyone could have remembered or imagined what the day of a student is. They just didn't care
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#57The tragedy of this article is that any lessons learned from such a stunt will not likely survive long enough to make any actual, substantial changes in public school pedagogy.
Students will continue to sit down and shut up, as they are expected to passively absorb all information given to them, to be regurgitated on demand. It would be difficult to change that even if you had the force of a published, peer-reviewed scientific study behind you, rather than just two days worth of anecdotes.
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#58 No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teacher, leave them kids alone
Hey! Teacher! Leave them kids alone!
(All in all, I agree, this should have been obvious without having to shadow any student at all.)Re: Teacher spends two days as a student (2014)
#59For example, in design stage where I'm scoping, scripting and storyboarding for a digital course, it's essential to keep close relationships with the subject matter experts and a sample of learners.
For the latter, one-off interviews are simply not enough. It's much more revealing when you station yourself "in the field" to observe and interact directly, so that you deeply understand their problems, work environment and ways of working. Even if you gain no new information, the experience will shape your design decisions and help make the course more "human."
But for subject matter experts, I tend to assume the role of the dumbest learner ever. Actually that's not very hard, I'm a slow learner myself! But by making no assumptions and asking the simplest questions, I find that I can get the course to flow better and much more easily digestible.
Brief stints are still not enough though. Outside my professional life, I take a few online courses to help me stay grounded and informed of the best and worst techniques. (And learn new things!)
So it really boils down to empathy. As educators we can suppose so much, but at the end of the day, it's the learners that receive it all. The closest we can get to understanding them is then to become learners ourselves.
Re: Teacher spends two days as a student (2014)
#60Discussed previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8442067