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Thunderbird’s Future Home

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Re: Thunderbird’s Future Home

#41
I use thunderbird because my work uses gmail. I guess (maybe) I could add the secondary work gmail account to my regular gmail. Not sure, the other alternative is to keep a separate incognito window or keep work email open in a separate browser.

I just use Thunderbird instead.

Re: Thunderbird’s Future Home

#42

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I use e-mail client (Outlook) at work. Two reasons: - it's very convenient for accounts you check only in one place - it's infinitely more convenient than any browser-based interface besides GMail that I've seen so far I'd be using a client for my personal mail too, if configuring Emacs to work with GMail wasn't such a pain. Also, don't tell me that on your phone you check your e-mail through a browser!

There's still some major features missing in gmail. The biggest, for me, is "sort by." I use this feature at least once a week in Outlook and for the life of me can't figure out why this relatively simple feature hasn't been added to gmail.

What do you sort by, if I may ask? I'm so used to GMail that I guess I don't feel like I'm missing anything. All of my needs are handled by searching for stuff and and/or applying stars.

Re: Thunderbird’s Future Home

#43
post #35

My CS instructor once asked everyone in the class to "raise you hand if you still use an email client." My hand was the only one that went up, and a couple of people laughed and said "really?" I think that was almost 10 years ago.

Everyone laughed, because absolutely no one connects their phone's mail client to their webmail provider. That would be crazy.

(or they're a bit clueless about how their work phone connects to some sort of IMAP host)

Re: Thunderbird’s Future Home

#45

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There's also https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gmail-con... for those that have become used to seeing the content of all emails in a conversation.

Doesn't work well. I personally like GMail-style conversations, but I couldn't use that plugin.

Yes it's a bit of a crutch. I prefer it to Thunderbolt's default view, though.

Re: Thunderbird’s Future Home

#46
post #6

A Bright Future The Thunderbird Council is optimistic about the future. With the organizational question settled, we can focus on the technical challenges ahead. Thunderbird will remain a Gecko-based application at least in the midterm, but many of the technologies Thunderbird relies upon in that platform will one day no longer be supported. The long term plan is to migrate our code to web technologies Mozilla dumps…

> And it should have a modern UI with at least conversation view like Gmail.

I never really found the conversation view of email very useful (especially if there are more then two people participating in the conversation). It's hard to tell who replied to whom and you can't really get context if there are responses to multiple parts of the message they're replying to.

I do have a strong preference for the threaded view that Thunderbird has now.

Re: Thunderbird’s Future Home

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's still some major features missing in gmail. The biggest, for me, is "sort by." I use this feature at least once a week in Outlook and for the life of me can't figure out why this relatively simple feature hasn't been added to gmail.

What do you sort by, if I may ask? I'm so used to GMail that I guess I don't feel like I'm missing anything. All of my needs are handled by searching for stuff and and/or applying stars.

Try finding the first email you ever got from Amazon (or any common sender). In Outlook this would be trivial. from: Amazon, sort by date. With Gmail you can search by the sender, but you have to click through page after page to find the oldest one.

Re: Thunderbird’s Future Home

#48

I don't use Thunderbird, but I like that it exists and I hope they survive. Perhaps because it's my life boat if I need to abandon spying web hosted clients (gmail etc).

These days the word 'spying' is used frequently but somehow ironically (?) Why not be honest to you and say that your laziness is more worth for you than your privacy?

'spying' is perceived as boring or 'it happens anyway' or 'we cannot do something about it'. Of course you can. You have the choice to be slightly less lazy and actually use the alternatives where you can&want, maybe even if they are worse! I'm not implying here that Thunderbird is worse than gmail ;)

Furthermore 'spying' should not have the personal touch (only). Instead companies should take this issue really serious to reduce the possibilities of econmic spying. I know companies fighting hard against Google with their products, having strict NDAs but then yes, they use non-encrypted gmail accounts for everything.

Thunderbird is important like all of these alternatives (be it open source or not like DuckDuckGo) to reduce influence of monopolies. As monopolies are bad for users&customers. Always.

BTW: you can donate here: https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/

Re: Thunderbird’s Future Home

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you sort by, if I may ask? I'm so used to GMail that I guess I don't feel like I'm missing anything. All of my needs are handled by searching for stuff and and/or applying stars.

Try finding the first email you ever got from Amazon (or any common sender). In Outlook this would be trivial. from: Amazon, sort by date. With Gmail you can search by the sender, but you have to click through page after page to find the oldest one.

Right. Well, now I'm sad because I realized that indeed I had this problem occasionally; the way GMail implements search I don't exactly even trust them that the first mail they show me is actually the first mail, and not search bugging out. I guess I forgot about that because I very rarely need to do such a search.

You also reminded me of another e-mail annoyance - people sending PGP signatures in attachments make it nigh-impossible to search for actual attachments, as every conversation with those senders looks like it has one.

Re: Thunderbird’s Future Home

#50
I hope Thunderbird lives on for a long time, but in the FOSS world, one should never depend on a single piece of software for their day-to-day functionality, thus here are some alternatives:

https://alternativeto.net/software/mozilla-thunderbird/?lice...

You must also keep in mind that desktop mail-clients make the (otherwise) complicated PGP-encryption of emails a bit more user-friendly.

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