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Re: Ask HN: Remote Employees Double-Dipping?

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post #19

I've seen it done onsite. There was a guy who worked an 8-5 job in my building and the building next door simultaneously. He would show up, look busy, then run next door and do the same thing. He did this for about 8 months before one of his managers caught on and told his other manager. He ended up losing both jobs at the same time.

I feel like it's kinda impressive that he managed to keep that up for 8 months. What were the two jobs exactly?

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I had a DBA, very senior, who was working for me on contract while maintaining a full time job at another Silicon Valley company. I was paying him $50K/Year to ensure that none of our Oracle Systems ever had an issue, and in the event of a problem, he would fix it.

What I liked about this arrangement is that he was highly incentivized to ensure that he would have to do the least amount of work, so his deployments were highly automated (including the back end monitoring), and pristine, by the book. I'm pretty sure his other manager knew that he was working two jobs, but because his work here didn't interfere with his job there, everything was kosher.

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Lol I had to negotiate to get about a quarter of that salary. I know Travis CI limits your pay to your region. GitLab as well. Difference from Mexico to San Francisco is about 4x.

That's messed up. Unless there's a separate component like local-cost-of-living-adjustment where you get extra for living in a high-rent area.

it's not messed up. Otherwise you're overpaying by 4x compared to local positions. Which means the person will probably never leave if they're unhappy etc.

Re: Ask HN: Remote Employees Double-Dipping?

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post #19

I've seen it done onsite. There was a guy who worked an 8-5 job in my building and the building next door simultaneously. He would show up, look busy, then run next door and do the same thing. He did this for about 8 months before one of his managers caught on and told his other manager. He ended up losing both jobs at the same time.

I feel like it's kinda impressive that he managed to keep that up for 8 months. What were the two jobs exactly?

Software developer!

Re: Ask HN: Remote Employees Double-Dipping?

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post #15

I knew of a guy who worked two jobs on-site - was about 3 months before he was caught. I think he worked as a contractor and billed through two different agencies. Started early on one job, late at the other on a different floor and lots of meetings away from desk inbetween. :)

"worked two jobs on-site"

I did that twice, once at a dying company when a coworker quit until I lined up a new job in a couple weeks, and another time was a horizontal transfer where two engineering managers were rather vocal about my working solely for them. In both cases I just kinda did what I wanted, knowing there was nothing they could do.

I suspect the question they meant to ask was who was getting paid for two jobs. I have a really boring story about that revolving around a company that paid out severance gradually instead of lump sum, which given the time of year was financially advantageous for me WRT marginal income tax rate.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's messed up. Unless there's a separate component like local-cost-of-living-adjustment where you get extra for living in a high-rent area.

...yes? Cost of living between Mexico to San Francisco probably in the neighborhood of 4x, depending on which part of Mexico. 500000 MXN rounds to $25k, which is 1/4 of $100k.

Cost of surviving(food, shelter, boose) - yes. What about cost of having trip around the world for vacation, building your retirement fund, price of the iphone, car?

Re: Ask HN: Remote Employees Double-Dipping?

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post #20

I've done plenty of volunteer work while working a salaried position over the last couple decades. My day job has nothing to do with swinging a hammer, being a youth group treasurer, serving on a youth group advisory board, grunt work at the food pantry, grunt work on hiking trails, being a member of the Army Reserve (although scheduling was an unholy PITA for that and the pay rounded down to nothing once I got a rea…

The fault here lies in their policies, not your actions. You are in fact entitled to a personal life regardless of what they coerce you to sign.

Re: Ask HN: Remote Employees Double-Dipping?

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post #15

I knew of a guy who worked two jobs on-site - was about 3 months before he was caught. I think he worked as a contractor and billed through two different agencies. Started early on one job, late at the other on a different floor and lots of meetings away from desk inbetween. :)

Isn't the point of being a contractor that you can take on other clients simultaneously?
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