Live data from Hacker News

Get started making music

learningmusic.ableton.com

11–20 of 476 posts

Re: Get started making music

#13
Ableton Live is my main daw. I use it every day, generally for hours, and for a wide variety of purposes.

The most depressing thing about ableton is made obvious in two seconds of messing with that tutorial. A complete disregard for music in the sense of pushing boundaries of time, or doing things that are not tied to any sort of grid, and the sense of music as an emotive form.

So many aspects of music are very annoying or borderline impossible to do in ableton. Yet in all these years, and with so many installations, they just never addressed those issues. Instead they vaguely pretend as if music that would require features they don't have is radically experimental. Which might become true if so many people learn music only through using their software.

Seriously, Ableton. Stop pretending making music is clicking on and off in little boxes. It's embarrassing.

--

Edited to take out the "art" part and put in a couple of more specific criticisms.

Re: Get started making music

#14
post #10

This is not the basics of making music. It's a super advanced technique using a computer. The real basics involve pencil, (staff) paper, and hard work. Downvotes please.

One could argue that the basics involve putting sounds together in the simplest way possible - something like this. And that it takes far more work and skill to get to the advanced, low level stuff like writing on staff paper (and on the production side, compression, EQ, mastering, etc.).

To put it another way: Is learning x86 assembly the "basics of computer programming"?

Re: Get started making music

#17

Ableton Live is my main daw. I use it every day, generally for hours, and for a wide variety of purposes. The most depressing thing about ableton is made obvious in two seconds of messing with that tutorial. A complete disregard for music in the sense of pushing boundaries of time, or doing things that are not tied to any sort of grid, and the sense of music as an emotive form. So many aspects of music are very annoy…

For those of us who haven't used Ableton yet, what is it missing?

Edit: fixed autocorrect typo

Re: Get started making music

#18
As someone who has no musical talent whatsoever, I'm oddly intrigued by Ableton's products. I've occasionally stumbled across the Push[0] and been fascinated by it as an input device.

This site is another thing to add to my Intriguing Stuff list.

[0] https://www.ableton.com/en/push/

Re: Get started making music

#20

Related, this is trending on reddit this morning. Just fascinating to watch someone build a catchy track up on such a (apparently) basic piece of equipment... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK5cU9qWRg0

It's a cool video, but not really a very basic piece of equipment.

> That's actually a $900 synth/sampler/effects processing unit called the Op-1 by Teenage Engineering.

From this thread on /r/ArtisanVideos:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtisanVideos/comments/6a2yq4/guy_m...

Post reply on HN