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Re: FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing period for net neutrality

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Post by rybosome »

Uehreka wrote: post #57
wcarron wrote: post #11

Real confirmation of an attack would be a nice-to-have in this situation. I can see 3 probable realities: 1. The sheer volume of commenters and responses took down the system. They cover it by saying a DDoS attack was the cause. 2. They are intent on crippling Net Neutrality anyway, and either designed the system to insufficiently handle traffic and call it a DDos or even DDos themselves. 3. Since there are groups wi…

After watching John Oliver's show on HBO Now, I tried to leave a comment and the site was down. This was at midnight, around the time all HBO Now subscribers would've been getting to the "Here's how to leave a comment" part of the program. No doubt live viewers had posted about gofccyourself.com on social media after doing it themselves, adding to the traffic. This was no attack, this was legitimate public outrage.

The lunacy of something that provokes this much public outrage continuing on unabated just floors me.

Re: FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing period for net neutrality

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Post by MBCook »

EGreg wrote: post #29
ep103 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The man's got a 40% approval rating in his first few months, and Republicans are attempting to push a healthcare bill through congress that currently has an 18% approval rating and a 56% opposed rating. Opening up ANOTHER front for republicans, prior to the midterms should, actually, be quite upsetting. These are not the sorts of numbers the majority party wants to have before a midterm election.

They don't care. They gerrymandered the districts for the House using REDMAP. It gives them superpowers.

If you get enough issues that have a very large number of people opposed, it can crack even the strongest districts.

Re: FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing period for net neutrality

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Post by EGreg »

duncan_bayne wrote: post #51
EGreg wrote: post #9

Oh yeah, like these comments really matter this time around. A certain sector of society elects Donald Trump, who appoints the new FCC chair, and they'll do whatever they want within legal possibilities. Do you really think the sector of society which most cares about this rule change will affect the outcome with comments? They will no more do so than scientists will affect the budget of the EPA with comments.

I'm not a Trump supporter by a long shot - I think he's the purest embodiment of American fascism to date, save for FDR. (I did have a few hopes for his Presidency when he was campaigning; most of those have evaporated as he's turning out to be every bit the warmonger people feared, instead of a non-interventionist). But: "a certain sector" indeed! You mean "the American people", I think. What would you think if some…

I may agree with you regarding FDR and Trump, but their styles and attention to detail are vastly different.

I meant the words "a certain sector". Many of the people who voted for Trump did not want to gut net neutrality. I was pointing out that when a sector of society votes for X, their elected official can also do Y and Z. This is the representative democracy system, which I think has major flaws.

Re: FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing period for net neutrality

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Post by EGreg »

MBCook wrote: post #72
EGreg wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't care. They gerrymandered the districts for the House using REDMAP. It gives them superpowers.

If you get enough issues that have a very large number of people opposed, it can crack even the strongest districts.

So they can steer clear of THAT level, and just get away with a bit less.

Re: FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing period for net neutrality

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Post by duncan_bayne »

EGreg wrote: post #73
duncan_bayne wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a Trump supporter by a long shot - I think he's the purest embodiment of American fascism to date, save for FDR. (I did have a few hopes for his Presidency when he was campaigning; most of those have evaporated as he's turning out to be every bit the warmonger people feared, instead of a non-interventionist). But: "a certain sector" indeed! You mean "the American people", I think. What would you think if some…

I may agree with you regarding FDR and Trump, but their styles and attention to detail are vastly different. I meant the words "a certain sector". Many of the people who voted for Trump did not want to gut net neutrality. I was pointing out that when a sector of society votes for X, their elected official can also do Y and Z. This is the representative democracy system, which I think has major flaws.

> but their styles and attention to detail are vastly different.

Yes. Basically, FDR was competent. Trump isn't. I'm still not sure which is worse, given it's competence at achieving goals with which I disagree.

> This is the representative democracy system, which I think has major flaws.

Also agreed. What do you think of sortition as a replacement?

Re: FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing period for net neutrality

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Post by wcarron »

pvg wrote: post #44
wcarron wrote: post #11

Real confirmation of an attack would be a nice-to-have in this situation. I can see 3 probable realities: 1. The sheer volume of commenters and responses took down the system. They cover it by saying a DDoS attack was the cause. 2. They are intent on crippling Net Neutrality anyway, and either designed the system to insufficiently handle traffic and call it a DDos or even DDos themselves. 3. Since there are groups wi…

"Three probable realities" is an oddly quantum way to describe three speculative theories.

Yes, perhaps the wording was odd. There is an actual... er, sequence of events that did happen. In other words, a reality. There is reality and speculation, but seeing as I can't know for certain, I can only speculate. The options I listed appeared to me to be the most probable.

Re: FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing period for net neutrality

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Post by [deleted] »

rgbrenner wrote: post #53
pera wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citing the second paragraph of the posted article: > “These were deliberate attempts by external actors to bombard the FCC’s comment system with a high amount of traffic to our commercial cloud host. These actors were not attempting to file comments themselves; rather they made it difficult for legitimate commenters to access and file with the FCC.”

That still seems to fit the description of John Oliver.. Hes an external actor (to the FCC system).. he wasn't attempting to comment himself, but his actions sent a large number of people to the FCC website.. too much for the host to handle, which made it difficult for commenters to access the site.

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Re: FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing period for net neutrality

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Post by mino »

ben174 wrote: post #28
wcarron wrote: post #11

Real confirmation of an attack would be a nice-to-have in this situation. I can see 3 probable realities: 1. The sheer volume of commenters and responses took down the system. They cover it by saying a DDoS attack was the cause. 2. They are intent on crippling Net Neutrality anyway, and either designed the system to insufficiently handle traffic and call it a DDos or even DDos themselves. 3. Since there are groups wi…

John Oliver's video is #3 trending on YouTube right now. It specifically calls for people to write comments on that page. He even bought up a domain that points directly to the page. http://gofccyourself.com

Here is the video of that episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92vuuZt7wak

Re: FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing period for net neutrality

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Post by sophyput »

callesgg wrote: post #21

The site works just fine for me. http://www.gofccyourself.com press the link "+ Express" I mean i have not posted anything as i am not a US citizen but the form loads and i can fill it in

If you destroy net neutrality I will cease all nonessential internet activity. Starting with Facebook. Forever
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