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How Your Phone Is Designed to Control Your Life [video]

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How is this different from any other medium? A newspaper prints articles most likely to consume your time (that's why you buy them). TV channels produce programs you're most likely to watch, and arrange them in such a way that your most likely to continue watching (damn HBO producing quality content so I'm more likely to watch it). Don't pretend companies are forcing you to look at your phone all the time. Take respo…

You're right, other mediums employ whatever tactics they can to keep our attention. I think the key differences here are that we have our phones with us all of the time, and the phones have the ability to interrupt whatever we're doing. The point being highlighted in this video, whether you think it's a good thing or a bad thing, is that those two things are being exploited to make us addicted to looking at our phones.

I think everybody is in favour of interesting articles and engaging content - I think what this guy is against is the cheap tactics being used at the moment to make you check your phone regardless of the quality of the content you're checking.

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This was covered in a comment already re: Netflix, but it can't be stressed enough: much of this is a consequence of free software services that need users to spend as much time as possible on the service in order to maximize ad revenue. If the software service required a subscription, then none of these issues are present. In fact, the provider company would have a fairly neutral position on usage, as long as costs…

> It should give us pause when free software/services have a significant amount of design in common with the lottery and slot machines. Paid software, too, and especially video games, and even more so if it supports paid DLC, can also employ similar tactics that exploit human psychology for profit.

Yes, that is a good point. It's definitely started infecting all sorts of software that targets general consumers.

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post #53

How is this different from any other medium? A newspaper prints articles most likely to consume your time (that's why you buy them). TV channels produce programs you're most likely to watch, and arrange them in such a way that your most likely to continue watching (damn HBO producing quality content so I'm more likely to watch it). Don't pretend companies are forcing you to look at your phone all the time. Take respo…

I somewhat agree with this. Instead of shaming companies for trying to produce/show the most likely content users would enjoy, shame those who abuse the easy access to their users, e.g. this one: https://i.redd.it/bmkpt4orb3uy.jpg

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I just wish there was a better way to measure "positive impact" on people's lives. Often the amount of time spent is used as a proxy for this, because it is much easier to measure. In order to truly accurately measure such a thing, you would need to know (or infer/predict) someone's personal goals, and their progress towards their goals. This raises concerns with privacy, but perhaps it is a level of trust that more…

The phone must have a direct link to our brain and measure our dopamine and serotonin levels. Thats the only way. As long as our hormone data is anonymized then there's no problem.

That seems crazy to me. If you want to maximize dopamine release you will optimize your product to be more and more like cocaine.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tend to leave my phone in my bag all day except to use 2-factor auth or something. I would rather stare out of the window on the train in the morning than at facebook or twitter. Instead of people using technology to magnify their lives, they are confining their lives to their phone.

> Instead of people using technology to magnify their lives, they are confining their lives to their phone. No, you're just jumping to conclusions that fit your imagined narrative. When I'm using my phone on the train, I'm going through my reading list or listening to podcasts. If I had a physical book in-hand, I bet you wouldn't jump to similar conclusions. Yet the activities are the same and the content is the same…

Exactly. If you look at videos from the 60s of people on trams and buses, no one talked to each other back then either. There were always a handful of people with newspapers, magazines and books. By the 1980s, you'd see more people with Walkmans.

It's the same thing today, except we're wasting less paper, and we can have a bigger selection of music.

Yes there are additional bad things, like shopping apps/consumerism and free-to-play games that try to get that super addictable part of the market to give them tons of money for their shitty form of entertainment. But that's all in the choice of how you use things.

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