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Dr. Richard Hipp calls them "Postmodern Databases"

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Re: Dr. Richard Hipp calls them "Postmodern Databases"

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He thinks that NoSQL is not a very good name for the new databases we’re seeing these days, so he proposed a new name: postmodern databases. Why postmodern?

We've had similar points raised before, yet the term "NoSQL" continues to gain in popularity. There were similar concerns around "AJAX" and "Web 2.0" - both survived and are only just starting to be replaced.

Community-coined terms like NoSQL, AJAX, and Web 2.0 start as literal, descriptive terms. But after a while they become "brands" that represent a myriad of concepts and ideas that do not necessarily fit into their original definition. This is because they're not controlled or maintained by a single entity (like, say, "brands" like Redis, Twitter, Ruby or Django are).

(BTW, PomoDB would be a cool name for a new "NoSQL" database system ;-))

Re: Dr. Richard Hipp calls them "Postmodern Databases"

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He thinks that NoSQL is not a very good name for the new databases we’re seeing these days, so he proposed a new name: postmodern databases. Why postmodern? We've had similar points raised before, yet the term "NoSQL" continues to gain in popularity. There were similar concerns around "AJAX" and "Web 2.0" - both survived and are only just starting to be replaced. Community-coined terms like NoSQL, AJAX, and Web 2.0 s…

PomoDB looks awfully a lot like PornoDB, depending on the font you're using. Or depending on your mindset.

Re: Dr. Richard Hipp calls them "Postmodern Databases"

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post #4

He thinks that NoSQL is not a very good name for the new databases we’re seeing these days, so he proposed a new name: postmodern databases. Why postmodern? We've had similar points raised before, yet the term "NoSQL" continues to gain in popularity. There were similar concerns around "AJAX" and "Web 2.0" - both survived and are only just starting to be replaced. Community-coined terms like NoSQL, AJAX, and Web 2.0 s…

PomoDB looks awfully a lot like PornoDB, depending on the font you're using. Or depending on your mindset.

Ah, so that explains why the "pomodoro" technique took off in some developer circles recently.. :-)

Re: Dr. Richard Hipp calls them "Postmodern Databases"

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He thinks that NoSQL is not a very good name for the new databases we’re seeing these days, so he proposed a new name: postmodern databases. Why postmodern? We've had similar points raised before, yet the term "NoSQL" continues to gain in popularity. There were similar concerns around "AJAX" and "Web 2.0" - both survived and are only just starting to be replaced. Community-coined terms like NoSQL, AJAX, and Web 2.0 s…

I still haven't figured out what Web 2.0 is supposed to be. The closest I've been able to figure is that it's either a pure buzzword, or synonymous with DHTML.

If NoSQL goes the way of AJAX, that's fine. It's not a very good term, but at least it means something useful. If it goes the way of Web 2.0, no thanks -- I'd much prefer a different term, any different term, so long as it's actually descriptive.

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post #6

He thinks that NoSQL is not a very good name for the new databases we’re seeing these days, so he proposed a new name: postmodern databases. Why postmodern? We've had similar points raised before, yet the term "NoSQL" continues to gain in popularity. There were similar concerns around "AJAX" and "Web 2.0" - both survived and are only just starting to be replaced. Community-coined terms like NoSQL, AJAX, and Web 2.0 s…

I still haven't figured out what Web 2.0 is supposed to be. The closest I've been able to figure is that it's either a pure buzzword, or synonymous with DHTML. If NoSQL goes the way of AJAX, that's fine. It's not a very good term, but at least it means something useful. If it goes the way of Web 2.0, no thanks -- I'd much prefer a different term, any different term, so long as it's actually descriptive.

Web 2.0 can't be synonymous with DHTML, the buzzwords are temporally separated by about ten years. DHMTL was what Netscape called its tag, before it got blown out of the water by IE 4's radically superior .innerHTML. (And I use "radically" carefully; it rewrote the web as we thought we knew it.)

Re: Dr. Richard Hipp calls them "Postmodern Databases"

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He thinks that NoSQL is not a very good name for the new databases we’re seeing these days, so he proposed a new name: postmodern databases. Why postmodern? We've had similar points raised before, yet the term "NoSQL" continues to gain in popularity. There were similar concerns around "AJAX" and "Web 2.0" - both survived and are only just starting to be replaced. Community-coined terms like NoSQL, AJAX, and Web 2.0 s…

Web 2.0 isn't "community-coined". The term was invented by Tim O'Reilly to sell conference registrations and books. It's no more of a "brand name" and no more nebulous now than it was when he coined it.

AJAX was coined by Jesse James Garrett. I'm not sure that he would consider himself to be a community.

Re: Dr. Richard Hipp calls them "Postmodern Databases"

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post #6

He thinks that NoSQL is not a very good name for the new databases we’re seeing these days, so he proposed a new name: postmodern databases. Why postmodern? We've had similar points raised before, yet the term "NoSQL" continues to gain in popularity. There were similar concerns around "AJAX" and "Web 2.0" - both survived and are only just starting to be replaced. Community-coined terms like NoSQL, AJAX, and Web 2.0 s…

I still haven't figured out what Web 2.0 is supposed to be. The closest I've been able to figure is that it's either a pure buzzword, or synonymous with DHTML. If NoSQL goes the way of AJAX, that's fine. It's not a very good term, but at least it means something useful. If it goes the way of Web 2.0, no thanks -- I'd much prefer a different term, any different term, so long as it's actually descriptive.

Web 2.0 = Ajax + Social Media, basically. Websites that don't have to refresh the entire page to conduct user interaction, plus social news/networking/blogging/etc.
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