Live data from Hacker News

Aspirin May Prevent Cancer from Spreading, New Research Shows

scientificamerican.com

11–20 of 122 posts

Re: Aspirin May Prevent Cancer from Spreading, New Research Shows

#11
There are some interesting theories about aspirin. For example that it was Rasputin's secret healing trick to tell people to stop taking it:

"Gilliard,[32] the French historian Hélène Carrère d'Encausse[33] and Diarmuid Jeffreys, a journalist, speculated Rasputin's healing practice included halting the administration of aspirin, a pain-relieving analgesic available since 1899.[34] Aspirin is an antiaggregant and has blood-thinning properties; it prevents clotting, and promotes bleeding which could have caused the hemarthrosis. The "wonder drug" would have worsened Alexei's joints' swelling and pain.[35][36]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Nikolaevich,_Tsarevich_...

It is also claimed to be the real cause of the "Spanish flu":

"The high case-fatality rate—especially among young adults—during the 1918–1919 influenza pandemic is incompletely understood. Although late deaths showed bacterial pneumonia, early deaths exhibited extremely “wet,” sometimes hemorrhagic lungs. The hypothesis presented herein is that aspirin contributed to the incidence and severity of viral pathology, bacterial infection, and death, because physicians of the day were unaware that the regimens (8.0–31.2 g per day) produce levels associated with hyperventilation and pulmonary edema in 33% and 3% of recipients, respectively. Recently, pulmonary edema was found at autopsy in 46% of 26 salicylate-intoxicated adults. Experimentally, salicylates increase lung fluid and protein levels and impair mucociliary clearance. In 1918, the US Surgeon General, the US Navy, and the Journal of the American Medical Association recommended use of aspirin just before the October death spike. If these recommendations were followed, and if pulmonary edema occurred in 3% of persons, a significant proportion of the deaths may be attributable to aspirin." https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/49/9/1405/301441/Salicy...

Re: Aspirin May Prevent Cancer from Spreading, New Research Shows

#12

Because it's anti-inflammatory? Could be confirmation bias, but I keep getting the sense that cancer/immune failure in general is connected to our modern 24/7 eating cycle, without any down time for your body to not be inflamed and work on clearing out bad stuff. Thus life extension from intermittent fasting.

Not only does the article address this point, but the point is literally the focus of the whole article.

Re: Aspirin May Prevent Cancer from Spreading, New Research Shows

#13
post #3
post #2

Surely this would have been discovered by patients by accident, if it was true?

How? Maybe you went into remission because you took an aspirin every morning. Or maybe it's because drank a cup of coffee every day, or ate lots of greens, or spent 10 minutes in the sun every day, etc. Your body is complicated and more than likely lots of factors helped.

The effect in the article is just preventing metastasis, not going into remission. There's basically no way a single patient would have noticed that aspirin prevented that.

Re: Aspirin May Prevent Cancer from Spreading, New Research Shows

#14

Because it's anti-inflammatory? Could be confirmation bias, but I keep getting the sense that cancer/immune failure in general is connected to our modern 24/7 eating cycle, without any down time for your body to not be inflamed and work on clearing out bad stuff. Thus life extension from intermittent fasting.

I abstain from food between 8PM and 12PM Monday - Friday, adjusting for training schedules and such. It really helps me keep my GI tract clear, reduces inflammation, resulted in weight loss, etc. without any effect on my cycling fitness.

IF (or IMF as some people call it) is amazing.

Re: Aspirin May Prevent Cancer from Spreading, New Research Shows

#15
post #14

Because it's anti-inflammatory? Could be confirmation bias, but I keep getting the sense that cancer/immune failure in general is connected to our modern 24/7 eating cycle, without any down time for your body to not be inflamed and work on clearing out bad stuff. Thus life extension from intermittent fasting.

I abstain from food between 8PM and 12PM Monday - Friday, adjusting for training schedules and such. It really helps me keep my GI tract clear, reduces inflammation, resulted in weight loss, etc. without any effect on my cycling fitness. IF (or IMF as some people call it) is amazing.

I've fasted from ~8P to ~3P every day for coming up on 2 years and apart from making me more mindful of what I eat and drastically reducing my appetite I've experienced basically no other health benefits. IF is increasingly well studied and it is not especially amazing.

(I like it a lot. Just saying.)

Re: Aspirin May Prevent Cancer from Spreading, New Research Shows

#16
As for the internal bleeding risks, I was wondering what the actual numbers were. This is based on one low dose aspirin a day.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2036.2006....

"These results translate into an absolute rate increase with aspirin above placebo (the incidence of cases of major GI bleeding attributable to low-dose aspirin) of 0.12% per year (95% CI: 0.070.19% per year).[20] Based on this value, 833 patients (95% CI: 5261429 patients) would need to be treated with low-dose aspirin instead of placebo to cause one major GI bleeding episode during a 1-year period (i.e. the NNH is 833)"

Re: Aspirin May Prevent Cancer from Spreading, New Research Shows

#17
post #15
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I abstain from food between 8PM and 12PM Monday - Friday, adjusting for training schedules and such. It really helps me keep my GI tract clear, reduces inflammation, resulted in weight loss, etc. without any effect on my cycling fitness. IF (or IMF as some people call it) is amazing.

I've fasted from ~8P to ~3P every day for coming up on 2 years and apart from making me more mindful of what I eat and drastically reducing my appetite I've experienced basically no other health benefits. IF is increasingly well studied and it is not especially amazing. (I like it a lot. Just saying.)

What's the trick? I wake up starving. If I go to bed starving I sleep horribly and eventually wake up to eat.

Re: Aspirin May Prevent Cancer from Spreading, New Research Shows

#18
post #17
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've fasted from ~8P to ~3P every day for coming up on 2 years and apart from making me more mindful of what I eat and drastically reducing my appetite I've experienced basically no other health benefits. IF is increasingly well studied and it is not especially amazing. (I like it a lot. Just saying.)

What's the trick? I wake up starving. If I go to bed starving I sleep horribly and eventually wake up to eat.

My understanding is that it doesn't work the same way for everyone. My theory is just that if you're insulin sensitive, then concentrating your eating to one small part of the day levels your blood sugar and hormones out for the rest of the day. My experience is: once I start eating during a day, I will be hungry for the rest of the day. If I just don't eat, I basically don't ever get hungry: I'll know it's time to eat when I start getting headaches and dizziness.

Re: Aspirin May Prevent Cancer from Spreading, New Research Shows

#19
post #11

There are some interesting theories about aspirin. For example that it was Rasputin's secret healing trick to tell people to stop taking it: "Gilliard,[32] the French historian Hélène Carrère d'Encausse[33] and Diarmuid Jeffreys, a journalist, speculated Rasputin's healing practice included halting the administration of aspirin, a pain-relieving analgesic available since 1899.[34] Aspirin is an antiaggregant and has…

> 8.0–31.2 g per day

That is surprising amount of aspirin.

Re: Aspirin May Prevent Cancer from Spreading, New Research Shows

#20

Because it's anti-inflammatory? Could be confirmation bias, but I keep getting the sense that cancer/immune failure in general is connected to our modern 24/7 eating cycle, without any down time for your body to not be inflamed and work on clearing out bad stuff. Thus life extension from intermittent fasting.

first part; yes; second part; also yes
Post reply on HN