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Why Is the TSA Scanning Paper?

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Re: Why Is the TSA Scanning Paper?

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There seem to be a lot of people theorizing that it could be something about the paper itself that they're looking for, i.e. flash paper, paper circuits or physical one-time encryption pads, but what if it's not about the paper at all? Maybe, the TSA is simply trying to discourage passengers from traveling with or using paper, thereby encouraging people to store their information digitally on phones and laptops where…

Or it's simpler than that: security theatre. We're adding a new level of annoyance so people have this false impression their jobs aren't totally beyond worthless.

Fuck the TSA and the airlines. These days I'll pay more to take am AmTrak or just drive. Next time I fly, it will be after taking a train to Canada first. If I have to fly internationally, I'd rather not fly out of a US airport. I've flown through over a dozen countries, and yes, it is getting ridiculous everywhere, but America is still the worst. Especially when it comes to pat downs. No other country I've been through did pat downs except Moldova; and even theirs weren't anywhere near as bad (typically police arms/leg pat downs. No reaching under your belt or any other TSA bullshit for the false-positive/random-number-generator they try to tell you are body scanners).

Re: Why Is the TSA Scanning Paper?

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Seems like TSA does a lot of pilot programs that (luckily, imho) don't end up going anywhere. They once set up a folding table and searched everyone boarding my Greyhound bus.

They tried doing that at an Amtrak station a while ago and were forcibly removed from the premises by Amtrak police.

That's awesome. I remember hearing about their VIPR squads harassing people after they had disembarked a train at their destination. I'm glad Amtrak fought their bullshit.

Re: Why Is the TSA Scanning Paper?

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blobs of explosive normally have a chemical composition that is different from blobs of paper in a way that a X-ray scanner would detect. If somebody created an explosive that could pose as paper for X-ray, that would be noteworthy.

X-ray machines don't look at chemical composition, they care about density. Paper is quite dense, and a thick enough pile of it will show up as a solid block of 'something'.

They differ elements by row of the periodic table, and modern ones have special filters for separating a single interesting element from the rest of its row.

Re: Why Is the TSA Scanning Paper?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blobs of explosive normally have a chemical composition that is different from blobs of paper in a way that a X-ray scanner would detect. If somebody created an explosive that could pose as paper for X-ray, that would be noteworthy.

>Blobs of explosive normally have a chemical composition that is different from blobs of paper in a way that a X-ray scanner would detect. How is that? If a block of explosives is close to the same density as a stack of paper, they're both going to show up as similar colored blocks on the X-ray.

X-ray differentiate atoms by electronic distribution.

Re: Why Is the TSA Scanning Paper?

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I was at MCI on Sunday and can verify this. Even with pre-check, I had to remove my engineering pad from my carry on pelican case.

Oh man, even with pre-check? So it completely defeats the point of pre-check then by making everyone take something out of their bag. Ugh.

Re: Why Is the TSA Scanning Paper?

#60
Maybe some intelligence that people are inserting sheets of metal foil into stacks of paper to attenuate the x-rays and hide something underneath?

Assuming the airport X-ray machines aren't that powerful, I would guess that 15+ sheets of foil inserted into a book or similar might mask something underneath it fairly well?

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