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Another Group of Google Veterans Starts a Self-Driving Technology Company

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Re: Another Group of Google Veterans Starts a Self-Driving Technology Company

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The betting is not only interesting, but actually an excellent bet, in fact, very strategic. Learning to drive is only part of the formulas. As I stated this probably 10th time on HN, we need real data about road condition in order to make self-driving really successful. DeepMap is only part that solution, but we still need real data in real time. We need a real network communication in the transportation space. Take…

The problem with your idea is it's well outside a MVP for self driving cars, and we don't actually have self driving cars yet.

What's MVP? Of course we don't have self drivinv car otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Re: Another Group of Google Veterans Starts a Self-Driving Technology Company

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The betting is not only interesting, but actually an excellent bet, in fact, very strategic. Learning to drive is only part of the formulas. As I stated this probably 10th time on HN, we need real data about road condition in order to make self-driving really successful. DeepMap is only part that solution, but we still need real data in real time. We need a real network communication in the transportation space. Take…

The problem with your idea is it's well outside a MVP for self driving cars, and we don't actually have self driving cars yet.

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Re: Another Group of Google Veterans Starts a Self-Driving Technology Company

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The betting is not only interesting, but actually an excellent bet, in fact, very strategic. Learning to drive is only part of the formulas. As I stated this probably 10th time on HN, we need real data about road condition in order to make self-driving really successful. DeepMap is only part that solution, but we still need real data in real time. We need a real network communication in the transportation space. Take…

Every car could observe its environment, refer to the map, and send back any conflicting information to DeepMap, so that the map database would be updated in real-time, and pushed to all cars in the area.

Not quite. We need data from toll, from government on planned events, getting data about where emergnecy vehicles are going. Obseving environmebt is only as reliable as the recongition. For example if I knew ambluancs is coming from behind I would pull over. But often this is last minute reaction and often we can barely make way for ambluancs. However, if dispatcher publishes signal and ambluance publishes its GPS then cars where the ambluance is heading can get that data in advance and calculate how far and when to pull over. Relying on doppler effect to calculate siren then get twenty cars to slow down is not a great design.

Re: Another Group of Google Veterans Starts a Self-Driving Technology Company

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The betting is not only interesting, but actually an excellent bet, in fact, very strategic. Learning to drive is only part of the formulas. As I stated this probably 10th time on HN, we need real data about road condition in order to make self-driving really successful. DeepMap is only part that solution, but we still need real data in real time. We need a real network communication in the transportation space. Take…

Every car could observe its environment, refer to the map, and send back any conflicting information to DeepMap, so that the map database would be updated in real-time, and pushed to all cars in the area.

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Re: Another Group of Google Veterans Starts a Self-Driving Technology Company

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The logic on this statement doesn't really check out, as if this were the case it would be impossible to retain CEOs, they would all leave after a month. Yet somehow companies do so ...

To be honest, I don't have any idea why ANYONE keeps working after they have F-YOU money, CEOs or otherwise.

Consider the possibility that what you may perceive as work, someone else considers play with certain benefits.

Re: Another Group of Google Veterans Starts a Self-Driving Technology Company

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The logic on this statement doesn't really check out, as if this were the case it would be impossible to retain CEOs, they would all leave after a month. Yet somehow companies do so ...

To be honest, I don't have any idea why ANYONE keeps working after they have F-YOU money, CEOs or otherwise.

If you have certain goals in life e.g. building certain large infrastructures, it might be beneficial to do these in an existing company than starting your own or doing it in a nonprofessional environment.

Plus, yes, there are other goals than "not working".

Re: Another Group of Google Veterans Starts a Self-Driving Technology Company

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The problem with your idea is it's well outside a MVP for self driving cars, and we don't actually have self driving cars yet.

What's MVP? Of course we don't have self drivinv car otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Minimum Viable Product. He means that until self driving cars are not even as good as human drivers, it is pointless to discuss features that make them even better than human drivers. I.e. "one step at the time".

Re: Another Group of Google Veterans Starts a Self-Driving Technology Company

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To be honest, I don't have any idea why ANYONE keeps working after they have F-YOU money, CEOs or otherwise.

At some point, the work becomes the hobby. If you had fyou money, what would you do? Presumably not sit and stare at a wall all day. You'd do something you enjoy I assume. And for some, running one of the world's most powerful entities is enjoyable.

I'd just learn.

Learn everything.

I have a goal, it is to be better than average at every "skill".

Re: Another Group of Google Veterans Starts a Self-Driving Technology Company

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The logic on this statement doesn't really check out, as if this were the case it would be impossible to retain CEOs, they would all leave after a month. Yet somehow companies do so ...

To be honest, I don't have any idea why ANYONE keeps working after they have F-YOU money, CEOs or otherwise.

Because in most cases, your needs rise together with your salary. Once you start earning 200-500k/year, you just get a house/car/boat that costs nearly that much to maintain. Obviously there are people who keep their cost of living low and stash that money in a saving account so that after 10 years they can realistically stop working altogether, but that's not the pattern that I'm usually seeing.

Re: Another Group of Google Veterans Starts a Self-Driving Technology Company

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This kind of articulates a larger attitude I feel about startups in general - too many people are going for too much. Right now, a bunch of companies are going for too much of the metaphorical self-driving pie. But, there's a lot of niches with less competition - yeah, the slice might be smaller, but I'd rather have a 90% chance at 10% of the pie than a 10% chance at 90% of the pie.

Self driving cars will fundamentally change society. By the time we figure out self driving cars, we'll have enough tech for autonomous drones, trucks, planes, mail delivery bots, fork lifts, tractors. I bet whoever capitalizes on this will end up becoming the world's most valuable company. This is a horse-> horseless transformation again.

> Self driving cars will fundamentally change society.

They said the same about internet shopping way back before the dot com bubble burst. There were hundreds of web-vans, but only one Amazon. I guess everyone thinks of themselves as the Amazon of self driving rather than CueCat[1].

1. I'm embarrassed to say I badly wanted one. http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,288...

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