Ask HN: Self Hosted vs. Gmail / Outlook? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Self Hosted vs. Gmail / Outlook?

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Post by type0 » Thu, May 04, 2017, 9:45 PM UTC

nebulon wrote: post #25

Hi, we had similar concerns about privacy and have built https://cloudron.io to solve not only the hassle of setting up email but also other services where applicable selfhostable options are available. The mail server is fully built into the platform itself and automatically takes care of all the tiny details required to get over the often stated deliverability issues (SPF, dkim, PTR, ...). So far we have found that…

Cloudron is the best of its kind, I always recommend it to non-technical people that need self hosted services.

Re: Ask HN: Self Hosted vs. Gmail / Outlook?

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Post by msh » Fri, May 05, 2017, 10:24 AM UTC

dnh44 wrote: post #30

smt88 wrote: post #2

ProtonMail? Fastmail?

I just set up a new domain on ProtonMail. I like it. No IMAP though.

The lack of IMAP is my main issue with protonmail. Not that I need imap as such but its one way of doing a local backup. Right now they have no way for you to backup your email except saving them one at a time from the browser.

Re: Ask HN: Self Hosted vs. Gmail / Outlook?

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Post by msh » Fri, May 05, 2017, 10:25 AM UTC

Setting up your own mailserver and especially maintaining it is a lot of work.

Hosted I would look at fastmail, mailbox.org and proton mail.

Re: Ask HN: Self Hosted vs. Gmail / Outlook?

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Post by ionised » Fri, May 05, 2017, 3:44 PM UTC

Running your own mail server is more work than it might seem, especially when it comes to setting up security and spam filtering and such.

If you want to use another web mail service other than GMail then I can recommend;

https://kolabnow.com/ (the lite option just gives you webmail)

or

https://posteo.de/en (very green-energy and privacy focused

Re: Ask HN: Self Hosted vs. Gmail / Outlook?

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Post by arosier » Fri, May 05, 2017, 6:39 PM UTC

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #52

dnh44 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just set up a new domain on ProtonMail. I like it. No IMAP though.

So it's just browser based, but they do have mobile apps it seems. Also looking in to it there's a "IMAP bridge" being developed to allow use of traditional MUA.

Currently in beta https://protonmail.com/blog/bridge-beta-signup/

Re: Ask HN: Self Hosted vs. Gmail / Outlook?

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Post by leejoramo » Sat, May 06, 2017, 1:08 PM UTC

Yizahi wrote: post #37

coka wrote: post #29

If you care about privacy _and_ freedom, check out Kolab Now. https://kolabnow.com/

Can someone share their experience with Kolab Now? I'm almost convinced but still have some doubts. What about them versus Fastmail? Fastmail is USA based entity so has their own cons. What about customer service if something go wrong? Can we report bugs somewhere etc. I'm not planning to hide from Mossad or NSA, but have some above average quality and privacy service, not funded by bulk selling my data.

Fastmail is an Australia based company. The do operate servers around the globe and have a significant presence in the USA.

https://www.fastmail.com/about/company.html

I am not implying this is any better or worse for your privacy. I personally use and trust Fastmail with the security and privacy of my email. However everyone concerned about such matters should do their own research and decided based on their own needs.