Another Group of Google Veterans Starts a Self-Driving Technology Company

Post by deepnotderp » Thu, May 04, 2017, 6:45 PM UTC

andreyk wrote: post #11

deepnotderp wrote: post #3

The bet on maps is interesting. I'm of the personal opinion that in the long run only machine learning can solve autonomous driving, but both MobilEye and now this company both have invested heavily into maps. MobilEye makes sense, they have vested financial reasons that dictate what they do, so they can't turn their back on maps which they've been using for such a long time. On the other hand, starting a company in…

Cruise (now part of GM) also relies heavily on maps, based on a talk I saw their lead CV guy make. It does make a good deal of sense - maps (at least street-maps) are mostly static and they make the problem way easier, so why not use them. In fact, most people these days are implicitly using maps - how often do people drive to new places without GPS navigation? Of course, vision and likely ML are still a necessary pa…

Post by potatolicious » Thu, May 04, 2017, 7:09 PM UTC

andreyk wrote: post #11

deepnotderp wrote: post #3

The bet on maps is interesting. I'm of the personal opinion that in the long run only machine learning can solve autonomous driving, but both MobilEye and now this company both have invested heavily into maps. MobilEye makes sense, they have vested financial reasons that dictate what they do, so they can't turn their back on maps which they've been using for such a long time. On the other hand, starting a company in…

Cruise (now part of GM) also relies heavily on maps, based on a talk I saw their lead CV guy make. It does make a good deal of sense - maps (at least street-maps) are mostly static and they make the problem way easier, so why not use them. In fact, most people these days are implicitly using maps - how often do people drive to new places without GPS navigation? Of course, vision and likely ML are still a necessary pa…

Post by return0 » Thu, May 04, 2017, 7:17 PM UTC

Post by yeukhon » Thu, May 04, 2017, 7:36 PM UTC

potatolicious wrote: post #14

andreyk wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cruise (now part of GM) also relies heavily on maps, based on a talk I saw their lead CV guy make. It does make a good deal of sense - maps (at least street-maps) are mostly static and they make the problem way easier, so why not use them. In fact, most people these days are implicitly using maps - how often do people drive to new places without GPS navigation? Of course, vision and likely ML are still a necessary pa…

> "In fact, most people these days are implicitly using maps - how often do people drive to new places without GPS navigation?" I'd argue also they're using maps in an even more fundamental way - most driving occurs in places where the driver has already been, and relying on a wetware-stored map is a critical part of safe and effective driving. Local knowledge - traffic patterns, weird traffic signal setups, difficul…

Post by potatolicious » Thu, May 04, 2017, 8:19 PM UTC

yeukhon wrote: post #18

potatolicious wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "In fact, most people these days are implicitly using maps - how often do people drive to new places without GPS navigation?" I'd argue also they're using maps in an even more fundamental way - most driving occurs in places where the driver has already been, and relying on a wetware-stored map is a critical part of safe and effective driving. Local knowledge - traffic patterns, weird traffic signal setups, difficul…

If I have been to the destination multiple of times, I usually don't open map, I leave my phone off, or I let Pokemon Go running. But sometimes I do use map to seek for alternate faster route if I am in a hurry even if I am familiar with some alternate routes just to be sure. Since I don't use Waze (horrible experience), Google Map won't tell me there's a camera ahead, or police is ahead.