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Kodi: Open source TV app inspires full-blown copyright panic in the UK

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Kodi has an add-on system where 3rd party software can be loaded. Some of these add-ons are paid subscription services for live TV. They are substantially more reliable and have better quality than the free add-ons for live TV.

What is the name of the addons? I'll pay I just don't want any TV connection anymore.

Go to http://iptvtalk.org/ forum and read up. There's 3 "major" IPTV services and about a dozen or more specialized targeting various ethnic diaspora.

Re: Kodi: Open source TV app inspires full-blown copyright panic in the UK

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I've been using Kodi/XBMC for years, and can't believe anyone actually uses the streaming services... when I'd tried it the quality all really sucked.

Recently got an NVidia Shield TV, which I've been using kodi for my local/network media, and it's been okay (may retire/reuse my htpc). What I've enjoyed about the shield is that it supports netflix, amazon video, directtv now, sling and pretty much every legal streaming service out there. Of course, once you add a few of them up, you aren't saving much over cable.

What does irk me though is all the "channels" with "free" apps that you have to verify your cable sub for... I mean, aren't they still going to show the ads anyway? wtf does it really matter... Not to mention the craptastic experience that was the latest superbowl. If the companies make online streaming actually better, and/or not charge an arm and a leg, it will get more legit users.

The international licensing issues are way worse though... there are teams of employees and developers and netflix just to handle/track international licensing issues, windows, dates, etc.

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The future of these pirate TV devices is so uncertain that I don't understand why people are willing to pay so much for them. I recently saw something called an ISTV that was selling for around $400. I can't imagine investing that kind of money in a product that can be shutdown in under a year.

They're around £40 on Amazon (one-off cost), so not very expensive. I avoid piracy, and I'm personally spending way more than that on a monthly basis for multiple legal services that provide less content. I have acquaintances who have the Kodi box, and they work impressively well, so I can see why they're very compelling.

Maybe I just don't have the right connections, or know the right plugins... but when I've looked, the quality has been abysmal, consistency horrible, and just not worth the hassle... maybe just me.

Re: Kodi: Open source TV app inspires full-blown copyright panic in the UK

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I've been using Kodi/XBMC for years, and can't believe anyone actually uses the streaming services... when I'd tried it the quality all really sucked. Recently got an NVidia Shield TV, which I've been using kodi for my local/network media, and it's been okay (may retire/reuse my htpc). What I've enjoyed about the shield is that it supports netflix, amazon video, directtv now, sling and pretty much every legal streami…

Android TV supports directtv now?

Re: Kodi: Open source TV app inspires full-blown copyright panic in the UK

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The future of these pirate TV devices is so uncertain that I don't understand why people are willing to pay so much for them. I recently saw something called an ISTV that was selling for around $400. I can't imagine investing that kind of money in a product that can be shutdown in under a year.

Here in the UK, a fully-loaded Kodi box costs less than £50. Another £30 and you can have it installed and set up. A Sky TV subscription with movies and sport costs £72 a month. The cost savings are immense, even if you just buy a new box when your streams stop working.

I looked up ISTV - it appears to be a completely ordinary loaded Kodi box with a $300 markup.

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kodi has an add-on system where 3rd party software can be loaded. Some of these add-ons are paid subscription services for live TV. They are substantially more reliable and have better quality than the free add-ons for live TV.

What is the name of the addons? I'll pay I just don't want any TV connection anymore.

I'm curious about this as well. There's been some update to either Kodi or Exodus recently that has greatly slowed everything down. I'd totally be willing to pay for a service that has better quality experience and just the shit I actually want. Even Netflix is becoming bloated with garbage I can't sit through a single episode of.

Re: Kodi: Open source TV app inspires full-blown copyright panic in the UK

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I've been using Kodi/XBMC for years, and can't believe anyone actually uses the streaming services... when I'd tried it the quality all really sucked. Recently got an NVidia Shield TV, which I've been using kodi for my local/network media, and it's been okay (may retire/reuse my htpc). What I've enjoyed about the shield is that it supports netflix, amazon video, directtv now, sling and pretty much every legal streami…

Android TV supports directtv now?

Maybe not... sigh, saw a support thread where it was mentioned that the device should have been added, grr. Had been debating on getting a sling or dtv account.

Re: Kodi: Open source TV app inspires full-blown copyright panic in the UK

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I've been using Kodi/XBMC for years, and can't believe anyone actually uses the streaming services... when I'd tried it the quality all really sucked. Recently got an NVidia Shield TV, which I've been using kodi for my local/network media, and it's been okay (may retire/reuse my htpc). What I've enjoyed about the shield is that it supports netflix, amazon video, directtv now, sling and pretty much every legal streami…

What does irk me though is all the "channels" with "free" apps that you have to verify your cable sub for... I mean, aren't they still going to show the ads anyway?

The top and mid tier cable channels make much of their money off of carriage fees with the cable companies. If they offered their content free over the internet, the cable companies could just stop paying it and offer all of the customers a Roku box, a custom app for the channels they wanted to carry and let customers stream the other content for free.

Re: Kodi: Open source TV app inspires full-blown copyright panic in the UK

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Yes, TV here is shit, but the TV licence is completely optional if you're not the applicable content, you can opt-out online: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/te...

Not that that does anything other than tell them you exist. I'm working on renovating a property currently, have been for a year and a bit. It's uninhabited. There's no TV, no internet connection; just drills and saws. There isn't even running water. I notified them that the property was unoccupied in response to their first letter, 18 months ago. They said that they didn't believe me, and an enforcement officer woul…

Was the house expensive?

The last time I lived in the UK without a TV, it was in a fancy part of London.

We replied to the first letter, and never again heard anything from TV Licensing.

Re: Kodi: Open source TV app inspires full-blown copyright panic in the UK

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, TV here is shit, but the TV licence is completely optional if you're not the applicable content, you can opt-out online: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/te...

Not that that does anything other than tell them you exist. I'm working on renovating a property currently, have been for a year and a bit. It's uninhabited. There's no TV, no internet connection; just drills and saws. There isn't even running water. I notified them that the property was unoccupied in response to their first letter, 18 months ago. They said that they didn't believe me, and an enforcement officer woul…

I haven't had a license since 2006 when I binned my Sky box. I don't watch any live telly and when the new rules about needing a license for BBC iPlayer came into force I just stopped using it (I only ever watched top gear and a bit of Masterchef, so no great loss).

So anyway, I kept getting letters from TV licensing. I called them up and told them to remove me from their database which they did. One year later the letters were back (except addressed to "The Occupier"). I get a letter every month with varying degrees of threatening outcomes if I don't contact TVL again. It pisses me off that a private company (it's managed by Capita) is allowed to send harassing letters like this despite being told not to.

I did once get a TVL "enforcement officer" come knock on my door. After he identified himself I politely told him that I didn't need to let him in (they have no powers) and that I wouldn't be confirming or denying if I have any TV equipment (you don't need to). At that point he just walked away. That was about three years ago so I'm no doubt due for another visit.

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