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With latency as low as 25ms, SpaceX to launch broadband satellites in 2019

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Re: With latency as low as 25ms, SpaceX to launch broadband satellites in 2019

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I think they need licenses to use the radio spectrum. I believe Iridium set up a system in China so that all calls are routed through Chinese systems, so there is some historical precedent. The government of China also has anti-satellite weapons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Chinese_anti-satellite_mi... .

A nation using an anti-satellite weapon against another entity's satellite would be an unlikely, enormous escalation.

And one with profoundly self-destructive consequences too.

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Seven years. US Broadband providers have seven years to take us over the coals, practice full bore capitalism with our data and generally run oligilistic practices until their time even begins to run out

I'll believe it when I see it. They managed to somehow stop Google Fiber, they might be able to stop SpaceX as well.

Re: With latency as low as 25ms, SpaceX to launch broadband satellites in 2019

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> Data customers would pay for access on an individual basis. At a subscriber level, monthly billing to 'SpaceX Broadband, Redmond' might be cause for inquisitive State Police to visit. At a state level, the legality of jamming / interfering with satellites over national territory has never been definitively established. So SpaceX might find it easier to just turn-off over hostile nations than have them upset the net…

BitCoin?

And mining built into receivers...

Re: With latency as low as 25ms, SpaceX to launch broadband satellites in 2019

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Yes, until some of the thousands of small satellites about to be launched (not just by SpaceX) star breaking down and creating space junk that will become a serious problem to the launch of new satellites and spacecraft http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/20/mega-constellatio...

Well seeing as any future business in either rockets or satellite internet both depend on not creating space junk, I think they are pretty motivated to not let that happen.

Humanity is not so good at doing things in their best interests. We have over utilized any natural resource we have ever consumed often to our own determent.

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Why would they do this? EDIT: Data customers would pay for access on an individual basis. Helicopter-parent countries might cry foul, but what leverage do they have? It's not like they were going to launch things with SpaceX and they can threaten to stop.

They can jam whatever frequency the networks operates on. Or embargo any receiver/tramistter that could be used to connect to the network. Yes, some people would be able to work around any attempt at blockage, but that wouldn't scale to providing non-technical people with cheap/unrestricted internet.

The whole point above was about the black market. I.e. one that circumvents government attempts to ban it.

Re: With latency as low as 25ms, SpaceX to launch broadband satellites in 2019

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Seven years. US Broadband providers have seven years to take us over the coals, practice full bore capitalism with our data and generally run oligilistic practices until their time even begins to run out

I'll believe it when I see it. They managed to somehow stop Google Fiber, they might be able to stop SpaceX as well.

They didn't stop Google Fiber. GF own gutless management did.

Re: With latency as low as 25ms, SpaceX to launch broadband satellites in 2019

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Seven years. US Broadband providers have seven years to take us over the coals, practice full bore capitalism with our data and generally run oligilistic practices until their time even begins to run out

You have alternatives now; 4G cellular is one example. But they are difficult and/or expensive. We'll have to see if this solution is different; right now it's just a plan.

If it's difficult and/or expensive, it's not a real alternative, isn't it?

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This may help explain why Verizon is cutting FiOS prices and increasing speeds: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/veriz...

Well, they are cutting options. The price for 50/50mbps is staying the same in my area, however they have dropped the 75/75, 100/100, 150/150, and 300/300 options entirely and now offer 50/50 or 1000/1000 (which is actually 940/880 which is around the limits of "normal" ethernet). And while they advertise $69.99 on the site, clicking through to "more info" shows it as $79.99 and calling in to ask about it they are te…

Isn't this bait and switch?

Re: With latency as low as 25ms, SpaceX to launch broadband satellites in 2019

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You have alternatives now; 4G cellular is one example. But they are difficult and/or expensive. We'll have to see if this solution is different; right now it's just a plan.

If it's difficult and/or expensive, it's not a real alternative, isn't it?

I'm using 3G or 4G as a cheaper alternative to landline broadband. It's… acceptable, but not amazing. 20 GB per month doesn't go as far as it used to before I started watching so many YouTube videos, even though I use 144p whenever possible.

Re: With latency as low as 25ms, SpaceX to launch broadband satellites in 2019

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Seven years. US Broadband providers have seven years to take us over the coals, practice full bore capitalism with our data and generally run oligilistic practices until their time even begins to run out

I'll believe it when I see it. They managed to somehow stop Google Fiber, they might be able to stop SpaceX as well.

"They" didn't stop satellite Internet, in fact there's a Federal law that requires that everyone facilitate small dish installations.
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