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Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by staticelf »

oceanswave wrote: post #96

A fabric covered keyboard... wondering how that's going to look in a year of use. 1 USB 3.0 port and a proprietary Surface Connect port... So more surface-only dongles if you want to connect to a VGA/DVI/HDMI display. Is the Surface Connect port completely proprietary or is a rebranded Thunderbolt? Starts at $999 for a 13.5" i5/4GB/128GB SSD, and then you have to upgrade to Windows 10 Pro for $49 if you want to use S…

I have a SP4 and I love the fabric on that. As long as you take a bit care of it it looks great even after a year. Mine is almost a year old and is like I bought it yesterday.

However, I don't use it everyday.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by AngeloAnolin »

Available for pre-order today, Surface Laptop brings the superior performance and security of Windows 10 S to a laptop that college students will love.

with a price tag of:

Surface Laptop starts at $999 USD and will be available beginning on June 15th.

Are they really focused only for students? Is price tag reasonable for the student in this case?

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by tluyben2 »

greenshackle2 wrote: post #195
marcus_holmes wrote: post #108

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Handing them a laptop and having them go wild is exactly the way to do it. If they brick it, they have to work out how to fix it. As one of the kids who was lucky enough to get a BBC Micro, I had zero support. No-one else in my family even knew how to turn it on. No teacher at my school could support me because none of them knew how it worked either. If I broke it, I had to fix it. And no Stack Overflow, so no code t…

You're not average. Get out of your bubble. We had laptops at my high school 10 years ago, some of us learned how they worked inside and out, most did not. When the curriculum depends on having a functional laptop, teachers wont want to wait around for kids to figure out how to fix their laptops. 90+% will go go the tech. Little Johnny who's already struggling with math class will not be helped by having a non-functi…

Can you install, like on normal Chromebooks, Crouton on school Chromebooks if you know how to ? Because then kids have good opportunities; just for doing their school stuff, doing browser (and server) dev if they want to and dive in deeper with Crouton. All for $100-200.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by BatFastard »

Analemma_ wrote: post #413
BatFastard wrote: post #247

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Exactly, these are single purpose laptops for education. And I do believe that google docs has an offline mode now. So they can work offline for a limited period (at least). And how does this 1000 USD compete with 250 USD boxes?

Windows 10 S will run on other devices besides the Surface Laptop, most of which will cost closer to $250. The Surface is just the flagship device for it.

I just dont get why I would ever spent 1000 USD on a model that does less than the Surface for a similar price.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by zepto »

zepto wrote: post #497
donalhunt wrote: post #369

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I do not believe this statement to be true. The privacy notice provided by Google for their G Suite for Education is available here: https://gsuite.google.com/terms/education_privacy.html It clearly states "Google does not serve ads in the Core Services or use personal information collected in the Core Services for advertising purposes." Is the evidence that indicates this is not true? Is this in relation to non-core…

https://www.wired.com/2015/12/google-collected-data-on-schoo... http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/DigitalEducation/2016/02/goog...

There is no doubt they are building the profiles.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by simonh »

vezycash wrote: post #545
simonh wrote: post #469

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That's what Metro was supposed to be - a complete reimagining of Windows in the modern era, with a legacy Desktop mode if you really wanted it. But it turned out the legacy desktop mode was the only part of it the market actually wanted.somehow I don't think think not including the legacy mode would have made it any more successful.

The market still wants Win32 because metro/uwp was crippled, limited. Or more precisely, apps built on the new platform were not powerful. Microsoft Edge which was built as a tech demonstrator still had to rely on private APIs. Second reason: The only place to discover and install the new apps is on the store which has bad, awful, pitiful search to using google or even bing. I don't know why MS doesn't leverage Bing…

All perfectly true. MS did revamp Windows from the ground up and blew it badly.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by komali2 »

hueving wrote: post #493
komali2 wrote: post #396

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Why do you worry about this? Do you believe targeted ads are more harmful to your child than non-targeted?

Are you okay with a big company having a profile about your child's most intimate questions as they age? Children don't grasp the potential consequences of companies maintaining registries of people searching for really personal things.

What sort of intimate questions do you mean?

I'm ok with google knowing my location every second, I'm ok with receiving targeted shopping ads about watches after I browse watches on Amazon. I block ads when I feel like it, it's no skin off my bones.

It's not like men in black suits accost me at bus stops and force fliers into my hands with targeted ads. It's in my mind, literally harmless.

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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Post by komali2 »

Mtinie wrote: post #420
komali2 wrote: post #396

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Why do you worry about this? Do you believe targeted ads are more harmful to your child than non-targeted?

No, I'm not worried about targeted ads, per say. I'm more worried about the future misuse of all the accumulated data from their access and version control logs for cloud-based documents, internet browsing behavior, multi-player gaming sessions, personal emails, and all of the other forms of trackable interactions that my kids (and the rest of us) generate with on a daily basis. It doesn't keep me up at nights -- but…

Can you define misuse better? I'm not asking to be cruel, I just genuinely don't understand why someone would find the kind of personal information collection that is happening already, to be upsetting.

I.e. I see targeted ads regularly, so I know that I am being tracked by google et al, but this does not upset me. Can you help me understand why this should upset me?

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