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She saw a chain email (i.e. forward this to 10 people!) and decided it would be fun to make up her own. Apparently it was successful enough to get somebody's attention. Edit: To be clear, I would never blame them for wanting to stop a cascading explosion of emails. But I also wouldn't say it's impossible for a child to get an account banned.

And why is that a problem ? Does it violate Google's policies in any way ?

It's a problem because Google banned the account. Doesn't matter if it's unclear about policy violation given they're the ones making the decision and providing limited opportunities for recourse.

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The bad news is they're targeting students. Who wants to see his children being locked into MS Windows software by school? Besides, we just found out Windows 10 has almost complete control over your system and calls home, now sending your kids private data as a bonus! I would never accept my kids using a device like this on school. Schools are just ignorant and stupid if they make a deal for these laptops with MS. Sc…

You talk as if Chromebooks with Google Apps for Education don't send everything, including browser history, to the mothership.

They didn't say anything about Chromebooks. They said Linux.

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Is Google drive still free for only three years? Are you past three years yet, and, if so, what is the monthly cost per user / per Chromebook?

When you get a chromebook you can redeem an offer for 100gb free for 2 years. When your 2 years is up, files aren't deleted but you can't upload anything else until you're below the 15gb. Drive is always free up to 15gb.

To add to this, adding 100gb back to your account is (just) $2/month or $20/year.

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She saw a chain email (i.e. forward this to 10 people!) and decided it would be fun to make up her own. Apparently it was successful enough to get somebody's attention. Edit: To be clear, I would never blame them for wanting to stop a cascading explosion of emails. But I also wouldn't say it's impossible for a child to get an account banned.

And why is that a problem ? Does it violate Google's policies in any way ?

From the TOS at the time:

"5.4 You agree that you will not engage in any activity that interferes with or disrupts the Services (or the servers and networks which are connected to the Services)."

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And, more important, how much they type. I'd say that for a machine aimed at teenagers this might not be a good idea. Time will tell.

As a teenager I had a sweaty spotty face and armpits and stank, had a chronic hairdo, poor social skills etc. but I do not remember my hands being sweaty. Were yours? Thankfully I am past all that now, apart form the chronic hairdo, the spotty face, poor personal hygiene, awful social skills....... etc. etc....

They don't have to be constantly sweaty. repeated friction and skin oil from palm of hands is enough to discolor palm rests in normal laptops. This is an even easier surface to discolor / stain.

It will depend on how much you type, of course, and it will be different for different people but I wish they'd have chosen another material even though this one looks gorgeous.

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Not the only downside. Machine looks great but that fabric material in the keyboard looks like it will be easily stained with sweat (a common problem with surface pro keyboards). No USB-C seems like a big missed opportunity as well.

Saw one today. Also concerned about the fabric material fraying at the edges. Doesn't seem easy to replace.

It's glued so no, not possible to replace.

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A fabric covered keyboard... wondering how that's going to look in a year of use. 1 USB 3.0 port and a proprietary Surface Connect port... So more surface-only dongles if you want to connect to a VGA/DVI/HDMI display. Is the Surface Connect port completely proprietary or is a rebranded Thunderbolt? Starts at $999 for a 13.5" i5/4GB/128GB SSD, and then you have to upgrade to Windows 10 Pro for $49 if you want to use S…

The pricing is one thing I don't understand. If you're asking a customer to pay the same price as a MacBook air, which comes with productivity apps and a basic cloud service for free, why don't you let them use O365 for free, in perpetuity, at least on that machine? The other thing I don't understand is the overarching message. The line we've been fed from Microsoft's marketing team is that the "convertibility" of th…

I still miss when I had the surface pro 2 and I could use it like a wacom tablet. I spent a lot of time doodling between work sessions. The shitty snap-on keyboard with the utterly worthless mousepad and the fact that you have to hunch over like a disney witch in order to use it laptop-style totally killed it for me though. Windows 8.1 is garbage compared to Linux for development, but when I was a student I spent most of my time using it for web stuff so I could live with it. I should totally buy a wacom tablet so I can start doodling again.

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Do any of you have children at a school using Google Chromebooks and Google Drive? Calling Windows S a Chromebook competitor completely misses the point. Chromebooks are instant on, and your profile/data is 100% cloud based. You can grab any Chromebook from the rack in the back of the classroom, open it up, log in and immediately get to work on your report or whatever. I got an original Chromebook from Google I/O yea…

Chromebooks are great for most people, I even used one in college, but I did "side load" Ubuntu with Crouton for programming.

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For job safety, if your job has answers online, you probably want to specialize to move out of that.

As a Ruby developer who has been running my own development business for 10 years and still has to look up how to use Ruby's CSV class every time I use it - I doubt that online answers are going to be what puts me out of business.

If you have your own business, I can see that.

But as I usually work for somebody else, the risk of being replaced is more present.

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The bad news is they're targeting students. Who wants to see his children being locked into MS Windows software by school? Besides, we just found out Windows 10 has almost complete control over your system and calls home, now sending your kids private data as a bonus! I would never accept my kids using a device like this on school. Schools are just ignorant and stupid if they make a deal for these laptops with MS. Sc…

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