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Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by klausjensen »

bkor wrote: post #63
ItendToDisagree wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The majority of US citizens did not vote for Trump. Just thought I'd point out that most people DO NOT want this president.

Around half did want him? That's a significant of people to me, no matter if they have the majority or not.

Technically, only ~57% of eligible voters actually voted. Of those, about half voted for Trump. So only about 27% of all eligible voters actually voted for Trump. That is pretty standard for a US presidential election.

Those are the rules for democracy, so he is the legitimately elected president.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/10/13587462/...

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by microtonal »

ItendToDisagree wrote: post #53
microtonal wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We had serious plans to go on holiday to the US this year. I have been in the US at least a dozen of times, and absolutely love the desert states, Oregon, and Washington. Entering the US was already a large hassle, but with Trump's travel bans, rumors of phone, laptop, and social media checks, we have decided to postpone our travel plans until the political/security climate improves. Semi-related: we were in the mark…

The majority of US citizens did not vote for Trump. Just thought I'd point out that most people DO NOT want this president.

Thanks for bringing up, since it is a relevant point. However, it still does not change the fact that he is now leading the most powerful nation, with all its consequences.

I have always wondered how hard it would be to switch to direct voting rather as opposed to the system with an electoral college. Is it impossible because the current system is codified in the constitution, or does it 'only' require an amendment. If so, was there ever a serious attempt to change this system?

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by tomp »

ItendToDisagree wrote: post #53
microtonal wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We had serious plans to go on holiday to the US this year. I have been in the US at least a dozen of times, and absolutely love the desert states, Oregon, and Washington. Entering the US was already a large hassle, but with Trump's travel bans, rumors of phone, laptop, and social media checks, we have decided to postpone our travel plans until the political/security climate improves. Semi-related: we were in the mark…

The majority of US citizens did not vote for Trump. Just thought I'd point out that most people DO NOT want this president.

Due to the electoral college system, correlation between "voting for Trump" and "wanting Trump as a president" isn't 100%, so you I'm not sure you can make strong conclusions based on 2.2% difference in popular vote.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by microtonal »

klausjensen wrote: post #71
bkor wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Around half did want him? That's a significant of people to me, no matter if they have the majority or not.

Technically, only ~57% of eligible voters actually voted. Of those, about half voted for Trump. So only about 27% of all eligible voters actually voted for Trump. That is pretty standard for a US presidential election. Those are the rules for democracy, so he is the legitimately elected president. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/10/13587462/...

So only about 27% of all eligible voters actually voted for Trump.

The remaining 43% voted for 'I'll take whoever wins'. So, ~72% of the eligible voters can be held accountable for him becoming president.

Those are the rules for democracy, so he is the legitimately elected president.

Definitely, it is legitimate, even if we don't like the outcome ;).

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by [deleted] »

DanBC wrote: post #40
shpx wrote: post #34

This is a political statement highlighting the current legal uncertainty of refusing to unlock your devices at the US border[0]. By default iphones and macs are encrypted when you completely power them down, so the right way (assuming you have a good password) is to shut down your computers at the airport and only turn them back on when you've passed the border. Nothing interesting here tech-wise, effectively just a…

When they ask you to power on your device, and unlock it, and you refuse they don't say "that's ok, in you go", they deny you entry.

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Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by rurban »

imron wrote: post #30
kidmenot wrote: post #19

This only reinforces my intention to postpone my first visit to the US until after this presidency and its associated madness have ended. EDIT: at least until after this presidency.

Don't expect it to get any better once Trump leaves office. This madness didn't begin with him and it won't end with him either.

And don't forget: Many people voted for Trump to restore the legal and democratic system in the US. As the lesser evil. Same as with Obama. He promised the same.

It didn't happen. Both went 180 degree immediately after the election.

For the reality check: The big airports in the South and North are well known as extremely racist and strict with their "work vs business" checks for decades. What's new are the unconstitutional passport rules from the outgoing Obama administration. The constitution doesn't apply at the border and not to foreigners.

Hence all the new travel warnings in this year.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by baby »

StavrosK wrote: post #55
SCdF wrote: post #20

Just don't travel there. I'm sure I'd be fine: I've been fine a dozen times before. That was before they decided that it was OK to demand passwords and so on. Maybe now it would be worse. Or maybe my skin colour lets me off the hook. Regardless, I'd rather just not waste jet fuel on flying to a place that treats anyone this way. Your phone/tablet/laptop is, for better or worse, a gateway to your entire life. It conta…

People who have recently travelled to the US, what's the probability that you will be asked to unlock your stuff and have random employees search through it? Is it something that happens a lot?

It hasn't happened to me, but when I go to the US embassy in France they take my phone for the entire time I'm waiting there.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by HappyTypist »

DanBC wrote: post #44
rocqua wrote: post #38

Would it be accepted to give a wipe code rather than a password to customs?

They would deny you entry if you did that.

YMMV. I refused a month ago and sat in secondary for 3 hours, but they eventually let me in. On ESTA.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by bnt »

I'm from Eastern Europe and I (literally) just flew back from a 2 week work trip from the US (California):

- Getting a visa was a painless process. I just applied and I got a business visa.

- Entering the States required me to show my passport. Nothing else. Nobody asked me why I was going there, nobody asked me to show my phone or laptop (I had both). There was no separation, pat downs etc.

Re: International Travel Guide for Basecamp employees

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Post by rurban »

shpx wrote: post #34

This is a political statement highlighting the current legal uncertainty of refusing to unlock your devices at the US border[0]. By default iphones and macs are encrypted when you completely power them down, so the right way (assuming you have a good password) is to shut down your computers at the airport and only turn them back on when you've passed the border. Nothing interesting here tech-wise, effectively just a…

They closed this loophole a couple of years ago, by explicitly demanding that your devices need to be powered on and have enough battery power when entring the country.

So powering off your device, putting out the battery or encrypting it is all forbidden.

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