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Why Chinatown Produce Is Cheap (2016)

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The author interviewed in this piece is the subject of a recent Frontline: The Fish on My Plate. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-fish-on-my-plate/ It's about his experiment of eating fish as his only protein for a whole year, as well as an investigation of where our fish comes from, fish farming practices, sustainability, etc. Aside, it may be a good thing Americans don't eat as much seafood as the rest of…

Fish isn't complete protein for humans, you will starve if it's literally your only protein (no wheat, lentils, etc.)

Why?

Re: Why Chinatown Produce Is Cheap (2016)

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post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author interviewed in this piece is the subject of a recent Frontline: The Fish on My Plate. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-fish-on-my-plate/ It's about his experiment of eating fish as his only protein for a whole year, as well as an investigation of where our fish comes from, fish farming practices, sustainability, etc. Aside, it may be a good thing Americans don't eat as much seafood as the rest of…

Fish isn't complete protein for humans, you will starve if it's literally your only protein (no wheat, lentils, etc.)

I'm not sure where you got this information, but it is incorrect. Corrected for digestibility, it is not ideal, but is still complete: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_protein

Re: Why Chinatown Produce Is Cheap (2016)

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this rarely gets mentioned in these articles but it's extremely important. The Chinese food culture is substantially different than the Western food culture, and I don't just mean the items on the menu. Chinese don't eat raw foods at all, and especially not vegetables, which they correctly (by the standards of Chinatown produce) view as being unsanitary until thoroughly cooked. They have created a market that is effi…

The Chinese food culture is substantially different than the Western food culture, and I don't just mean the items on the menu. Things I've noticed about the particular Chinese food culture of my girlfriend: Ginger goes in Chicken soup. Garlic does not. Broccoli is only cooked until bright green. Black pepper is used, basically never. All vegetables are to be rinsed, even the things in Trader Joe's packages that say…

> All vegetables are to be rinsed, even the things in Trader Joe's packages that say "Triple Washed, Ready to Use." Almost no claim on the package should be trusted, ever. This is really good advice. Food contamination happens, even in your triple washed, plastic bagged veggies.

Re: Why Chinatown Produce Is Cheap (2016)

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Most of the landmass is far from the coasts, true, but the population concentrates at the coasts. So the geography is probably not the reason why fish is less popular in the US. There are probably multiple reasons but one could be that the competition from meat is very strong. Coming from Europe, I was always surprised how cheap meat is in the US.

I don't know: it seems like a lot of America's logistics and infrastructure design choices are made with equal consideration to inland and coastal populations, despite unequal size. For example, coastal US cities are designed for car travel despite their density, presumably because that makes them more accessible to "the average US citizen" who lives inland and goes everywhere by car.

There's nothing inherently dense about American "coastal cities". In the U.S., density is primarily related to age--how large a city was prior to the invention of the automobile. With the exception of the oldest cities in the north east, most U.S. coastal cities are not particularly dense unless they are also quite old. LA is a prime example.

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In other words, ultra-small ultra-low-overhead businesses are good for consumers. Problem is, most places in America there's a certain baseline red tape cost that exceeds the budget of these types of operations. In an unrestrained market environment, people can make money by eating up little inefficiencies like a swarm of ants. When you make the baseline energy cost of existence too high (e.g. with onerous incorporat…

And the big businesses who are supposedly "anti regulation" back lobbyists who put those regulations in place, so that new competitors have a harder time entering the market

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That used to be harder than it is today. The one thing I could never get in china, however, was western style sausage. They just don't make it anywhere in china, so overly frozen imports are the only option.

There’s one type of western sausage you can get everywhere, globally, easily. Volkswagen Replacement Part # 199 398 500 A That’s VW’s own self-produced currywurst (in the past also from VW’s own farms, now they outsource that part of the production chain): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen-Currywurst

The East German restaurant across the street from the Saudi embassy in north sanlitun Beijing has good curry wurst.

Re: Why Chinatown Produce Is Cheap (2016)

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post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author interviewed in this piece is the subject of a recent Frontline: The Fish on My Plate. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-fish-on-my-plate/ It's about his experiment of eating fish as his only protein for a whole year, as well as an investigation of where our fish comes from, fish farming practices, sustainability, etc. Aside, it may be a good thing Americans don't eat as much seafood as the rest of…

Fish isn't complete protein for humans, you will starve if it's literally your only protein (no wheat, lentils, etc.)

Umm... How did Polynesians survive with their fish filled lentil free diet? I guess greens? I think your info is wrong.

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As a fish loving Indian, I was totally surprised to see that in Capitalist America the choice of fish was absolutely pathetic. At American fish places you only get "shrimps" may be "large shrimps" and "small shrimps". Salmon, Bass, Red Snapper and just few handful of usual fish. My small village fish market offers at least 20 varieties of fish in India's coastal region. A proper fish market would offer at least 100.…

> My small village fish market offers at least 20 varieties of fish in India's coastal region. A proper fish market would offer at least 100.

Which state did you grow up in if you don't mind me asking ?

Re: Why Chinatown Produce Is Cheap (2016)

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A lot of Asian supermarkets have great fish at low prices. I'd like to think its because of informal network of small independent local producers but I suspect its illegally caught by sketchy fishing fleets. Can anyone put my mind at ease?

Yes, this article feels naive. I suspect much of the cost savings is due to bypassing various regulations.
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