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Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Post by jsmthrowaway »

thesuitonym wrote: post #93
Karunamon wrote: post #86

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Where I get frustrated with ops is when they forget that they're in the service business. They're there to serve application developers in the same way that the application developers are there to serve customers. In my view, you've got that completely backwards. Both departments serve customers in a roundabout way. Dev is responsible for turning user stories (generated either by other devs, focus groups, and so fort…

I work in IT, so not exactly the same, but I can relate so much to your pain. Teams are constantly bringing in some half-baked app that "Worked in the demo" and give us the registration key and a date to have it running by. Invariably it become the biggest headache for us, because it never works, fails at the worst times, etc. And when it doesn't work, who is the finger pointed at? The person who bought into it whole…

That's exactly the same. Don't sell yourself short. You're doing operations with a different audience, and that type of behavior is just as common in external-facing operations. Hell, it doesn't even have to be an off-the-shelf product; I've been through that song and dance with in-house software.

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Post by user5994461 »

holydude wrote: post #55
icebraining wrote: post #50

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The Docker engine is the one thing which nobody else can easily replicate. They can, and have: https://coreos.com/rkt That's why Docker had to keep expanding.

+ the docker engine is just a polished version of what we had for ages

Not totally accurate.

BSD and solaris have had good containerisation engines for a while.

Linux, not so much.

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Post by user5994461 »

skeptic2718 wrote: post #7

Docker is being used to cure diseases, keep planes in the air, to keep soldiers safe from landmines, to power the world’s largest financial networks and institutions Why do this?

The largest financial systems are running on COBOL/mainframes.

Planes are running on embedded microcontrollers still written in C or Ada. (They can't even get the approval to write C++).

Docker is not 1% ready for critical use. The day these things will use Docker, planes will fall and we'll have the next financial crisis.

As someone who worked both in finance and aerospace, handling systems that traded billions of dollars and planes that were carrying hundreds of passengers. This is my testimony on the year we tried to use Docker in production: http://thehftguy.com/2016/11/01/docker-in-production-an-hist...

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Post by lgas »

bmelton wrote: post #44
kordless wrote: post #37

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This is a company we're talking about here, not an individual. That is true even if an individual of our group envisioned an important technology. Pulling punches, as it appears that you are asking us to do, is irrational, especially given this latest move is likely to take the company public. I think it's important to note that maybe investments like this in infrastructure are not so great for users or the Internet…

> This is a company we're talking about here, not an individual I'm not saying pull punches, I'm just saying maybe remember that we aren't talking about a faceless politician here, and that to many, Solomon is someone they've interacted with, and likely in a positive way. Referring to the guidelines, I'm imploring us to "be civil" and "avoid gratuitous negativity". > I appreciate [etc] Thanks. :-)

There's no such thing as a faceless politician, they are human beings too.

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Post by mseri »

Jdam wrote: post #26
toomuchtodo wrote: post #8

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Guesses to who would acquire it? My money is on HP or Oracle.

Considering the great ties that Concur had with MS - Microsoft!

This statement seems reasonable after the amount of noise around cooperation and support with Microsoft at the latest conference

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Post by bmelton »

lgas wrote: post #104
bmelton wrote: post #44

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> This is a company we're talking about here, not an individual I'm not saying pull punches, I'm just saying maybe remember that we aren't talking about a faceless politician here, and that to many, Solomon is someone they've interacted with, and likely in a positive way. Referring to the guidelines, I'm imploring us to "be civil" and "avoid gratuitous negativity". > I appreciate [etc] Thanks. :-)

There's no such thing as a faceless politician, they are human beings too.

In general, I would agree, but we collectively seem a-okay with routine violations of the 'be civil' rule when the target of such incivility is a politician we don't like.

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Post by throwaway4719 »

dang wrote: post #89
nullnilvoid wrote: post #63

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This is standard PR stuff. Docker's PR machine has been working hard and churning out stuff like this. > Steve was easily the most-respected leader in the travel industry... When you read "easily the most-respected", it triggers some doubt. > They didn't build Concur to sell it, they built it to conquer, which they had basically done when SAP bought them. You meant they were conquered when they were bought by SAP, ri…

Please don't post like this to HN. It's a breach of the civility rule to accuse a fellow user of "standard PR stuff" and insinuate astroturfing or other bad-faith behavior without evidence. The overwhelming majority of the time, you're simply talking to someone with a different point of view than yours, and that's the foundation of civil discourse.

Note: Docker is a YC company (S10).

Note 2: This kind of comment from a moderator feels a bit out of place, given this. At least without a disclaimer explaining the relationship between the topic and the moderator's employer.

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Post by user5994461 »

jsmthrowaway wrote: post #99
curun1r wrote: post #78

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For what it's worth, I'm older than you and started in ops. If it helps to put things into context, I spent a ton of 1997 using a chisel to shave a bit off standard RAM to help avoid Sun's near 10x markup. The startup I worked at was provisioning around 20 Sun boxes per week and we had to patch together tools to manage infrastructure of that size before off-the-shelf tooling to do that really existed. I wrote a lot o…

> Where I get frustrated with ops is when they forget that they're in the service business. They're there to serve application developers in the same way that the application developers are there to serve customers. An application developer pushing back at a customer ask with the line, "without really stopping to ask what progress is from the perspective of developers" would be rightly lampooned. And yet somehow ther…

Rules #1 of operations: Don't be on call for other people shit.

You won't survive years in the field if you don't respect the basics.

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Post by user5994461 »

sz4kerto wrote: post #24
skeptic2718 wrote: post #7

Docker is being used to cure diseases, keep planes in the air, to keep soldiers safe from landmines, to power the world’s largest financial networks and institutions Why do this?

> keep planes in the air 'We really need to land, but the container responsible for landing navigation has crashed and I can't restart it because Docker complains that the endpoint is already registered on the overlay network' 'Just delete /var/lib/docker and re-pull.'

Rest assured! Docker will never be allowed inside a plane.

All plane software must be certified DO-178. For starters, that means 100% code coverage.

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