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Introducing Surface Laptop

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this would be my dream laptop if it ran linux out of the box. I really wish a linux laptop with this type of design was put out for an affordable price, I really think its a major opportunity for a large business market there. I think there is a lot of room for improvement on the "librem' laptops...

The Dell XPS 13 mostly fits the bill in terms of design. The Linux support is excellent.

I second that. Love my XPS developer edition.

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Windows S is completely backwards. If the Windows Store was actually any good, they should make a version without store apps (win32 only) and let customers pay a premium to use signed, vetted, store apps. (Only half kidding...) But this way around, store apps will always be viewed as the cheaper, less featured option.

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I don't know why they decided to launch 10 S with a Macbook competitor. Makes zero sense - launch it with a Surface 4 or a Surface "Lite" or something that costs Even then, the device itself is severely gimped - only 1 USB 3, no USBC. While the display looks like it should be nice the fact that the $1,000 base model only offers 4GB of RAM is nothing short of absurd.

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If this thing could be persuaded to run Linux out of the box with no driver problems, it could be a Macbook killer.

It never happened with the other Surfaces, I bought a Pro 2 hoping for some Linux support. It never panned out (Marvell wireless chipset had no drivers) I ended up going back to an old ThinkPad.

I've been running Ubuntu on my SP3 for years. The wireless drivers were a bitch and required patching the kernel before 4.4 but other than that everything worked nicely. It was just a matter of time getting the kinks fixed.

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We should all be taking offense by this. This is the drug dealer play book, Hook the kids early, so that when they are adults they go with what they know, instead of being critical thinkers and evaluating the available products to pick the best technical solution for the needs at hand. this is why small to mid-sized companies are struggling with MS server products, and are locked into this merry-go-round licensing fe…

Apple IIs were all over US schools for this reason.

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Given the target market (schools) I think not being able to install downloaded software is only a good thing. Also, did you see the performance demo? 10s was significantly faster than 10 Pro. Not sure about the $999 for the cheapest model however. Does it include an Office 365 subscription?

> Given the target market (schools) I think not being able to install downloaded software is only a good thing. Except that giving kids unfettered access to their computers allows them to flourish. See: BBC Micro, Raspberry Pi, Apple ][, the list goes on.

Microsoft developed a solution that would allow you to program a BBC microbit without downloading software . See https://www.touchdevelop.com/microbit

Re: Introducing Surface Laptop

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I don't know why they decided to launch 10 S with a Macbook competitor. Makes zero sense - launch it with a Surface 4 or a Surface "Lite" or something that costs Even then, the device itself is severely gimped - only 1 USB 3, no USBC. While the display looks like it should be nice the fact that the $1,000 base model only offers 4GB of RAM is nothing short of absurd.

There's another article floating around announcing other devices as low as $190 running Windows 10 S that will probably actually compete with Chromebooks.

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Only one question for Microsoft: touchpad. I have a Macbook and touchpads are just vastly superior to anything else in the market. If they nailed this, they have a new customer.

The precision touchpads have received much praise, but imo are still inferior to the ones on Macbooks. On my XPS a minuscule hair from my eyelash or the tiniest trace of sweat will make it go crazy while the Macbook is much more forgiving.
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