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Not Lisp again (2009)

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Re: Not Lisp again (2009)

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Weird lineage-jumping: Bill Siebert, in his other career as a hearing researcher, is my academic grandfather.

His textbook on signals and systems is one of the two classics in the field -- i wonder, now, how much commonality there is between that and his LISP experience.

Re: Not Lisp again (2009)

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Weird lineage-jumping: Bill Siebert, in his other career as a hearing researcher, is my academic grandfather. His textbook on signals and systems is one of the two classics in the field -- i wonder, now, how much commonality there is between that and his LISP experience.

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Re: Not Lisp again (2009)

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I was similarly impressed when reading the first chapter of SICP (https://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/), which shows the same code examples. In a very few elegant lines, without explaining much syntax, some very fundamentals of computing are explained. I can only recommend to read the book, even if "Lisp programmer" is not on the career plan.

Re: Not Lisp again (2009)

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The objections the author had way back in the day are no longer the objections programmers of mainstream languages have to Lisp today.

Today the objections I hear are more along the lines of:

1 - All those parenthesis. (Still a top objection)

2 - Lisp doesn't look like or work like what I'm used to.

3 - Lisp doesn't have as many libraries as the most popular mainstream programming languages.

4 - There aren't nearly as many Lisp programmers, so it'll be hard to find more to join your project/company if you use Lisp.

5 - There aren't nearly as many Lisp jobs, so why bother learning Lisp if you're going to have a hard time finding work using it?

6 - Lisp is ancient, and anything that old is useless and primitive compared to new and shiny languages.

Re: Not Lisp again (2009)

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I have to admit, the slightly misleading title got me. I'm currently going through SICP myself (albeit at a snail's pace), but it seems like the article's author and I both had the same initial objections to LISP, only to be blown away by its simplicity and expressiveness with a few keywords and lines of code. I'm still partial to other programming languages, but LISP holds a special place in my hard drive.
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