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Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Docker is being used to cure diseases, keep planes in the air, to keep soldiers safe from landmines, to power the world’s largest financial networks and institutions Why do this?

Marketing. The same could be said of almost anything though: "[Linux|Raspberry Pi|Angular|Python] is being used to cure diseases, keep planes in the air, to keep soldiers safe from landmines, to power the world’s largest financial networks and institutions

For Linux, the Raspberry Pi and Python it is probably actually true about the first two, not sure about the landmines, Raspberry Pi in finance I doubt but Linux and Python for sure.

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Surprised there wasn't also the typical "want to spend time with family" part to cover the fact that the CEO was fired and a board seat was his consolation prize. If you want to raise $180M without a business model to become a fabled unicorn, you had better know what you're doing. Docker just got a lot less interesting with an ex-Concur exec in charge, but it'll probably exit within 2-3 years and make the investors h…

My money would be on SAP. Similar pattern to Nokia.

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

#53
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Docker is being used to cure diseases, keep planes in the air, to keep soldiers safe from landmines, to power the world’s largest financial networks and institutions Why do this?

Jeez, everyone from Linus Torvalds to Intel to the freaking power company could take credit for these things. Maybe tone down the "we're saving the world" rhetoric, Docker?

It makes more sense in the context of the criticism that Docker gets. It's a counter to the inane "Docker isn't stable enough, Docker isn't secure enough, Docker isn't whatever enough to use in production" critique that some obstinate old ops person will throw up because they'd rather keep their job comfortable than try to accommodate a need beyond their own. I don't read it as Docker does all those things so much as Docker is used to do all those things and diseases are getting cured, planes aren't falling from the sky, soldiers aren't getting unnecessarily blown up and financial networks are only crumbling due to their own internal negligence. If it can be used in all those situations, it will probably work for your crappy pool-of-app-servers-on-top-of-a-database webapp.

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Seems you're just doing a little 'reductio ad absurdum'. Sigh ...

Honestly it was a low effort comment that didn't add to the discussion I don't mind. It we pre morning-coffee.

Pre-coffee commenting, the drunk-texting of Hacker News.

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Docker just needed to license and support the engine rather than trying to build a crappy enterprise platform a'la Cloud Foundry. The Docker engine is the one thing which nobody else can easily replicate. They would have smashed it in the mass market at something like $100/yr/node.

The Docker engine is the one thing which nobody else can easily replicate. They can, and have: https://coreos.com/rkt That's why Docker had to keep expanding.

+ the docker engine is just a polished version of what we had for ages

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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post #53
post #16

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Jeez, everyone from Linus Torvalds to Intel to the freaking power company could take credit for these things. Maybe tone down the "we're saving the world" rhetoric, Docker?

It makes more sense in the context of the criticism that Docker gets. It's a counter to the inane "Docker isn't stable enough, Docker isn't secure enough, Docker isn't whatever enough to use in production" critique that some obstinate old ops person will throw up because they'd rather keep their job comfortable than try to accommodate a need beyond their own. I don't read it as Docker does all those things so much as…

> obstinate old ops person will throw up because they'd rather keep their job comfortable than try to accommodate a need beyond their own

Oh, come on. This is why I hate Docker. Right here. It's like a heat seeking missile that looks for the friction points between engineering and operations, then explodes in a fireball of "do we really need operations? They're just old and obstinate and in the way of progress," without even really stopping to ask what progress is from the perspective of operations.

Some of us like to think of legitimate technical reasons to push back on Docker in our own circumstances and deployments (some of us even read code to help make that determination), but I suppose your dichotomy would be fun to navigate for everyone involved. I've definitely been in environments where one side characterizes operational pushback as change reticence, which immediately personalizes the discussion. That's a tough environment in which to argue, especially when you're arguing with people who will not be on call for the crap they are trying to deliver to you.

The casual ageism in your comment is, sadly, expected. I'm growing accustomed to HN considering it acceptable to go after "old" and "operations" with equal vigor, which speaks more broadly to worrying trends in our industry. I'm 31 and have devoted my career to operations, and I already have an exit plan. That should say something about the industry, and I think this comment is a fine microcosm of that.

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Honestly it was a low effort comment that didn't add to the discussion I don't mind. It we pre morning-coffee.

Pre-coffee commenting, the drunk-texting of Hacker News.

It comes across more like drunk driving to me. Making a mistake, then blaming it on the drink (or lack of coffee here).

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

#59

Docker is being used to cure diseases, keep planes in the air, to keep soldiers safe from landmines, to power the world’s largest financial networks and institutions Why do this?

> keep planes in the air 'We really need to land, but the container responsible for landing navigation has crashed and I can't restart it because Docker complains that the endpoint is already registered on the overlay network' 'Just delete /var/lib/docker and re-pull.'

There's that familiar chest pain again.

Re: Steve Singh will become Docker’s new CEO

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Honestly it was a low effort comment that didn't add to the discussion I don't mind. It we pre morning-coffee.

Pre-coffee commenting, the drunk-texting of Hacker News.

What's really funny. I was kind of drunk when I wrote that comment. Re-read it thinking, "that sounds familiar". G'night everyone.
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