Telia had problems hitting many service providers. Not a Cloudflare problem per se. Plenty of non-Cloudflare stuff affected like Reddit, AWS, Fastly, ... Check out the dip in requests to Reddit: http://www.redditstatus.com/
Did Reddit stop using Cloudflare?
Network Performance Issues in multiple locations
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#22Obligatory comment that I (and others) make every single time: can we please for 's sake stop centralizing everything? We are literally throwing away all the benefits of a mostly-decentralized internet for the sake convenience.
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#23Idea: let's proxy half the internet through a private, proprietary service! We can get people to give us valid SSL certificates for their sites, too, and let's fuck up Tor while we're at it. We can totally handle it, right? Oh, and we need to pay for it somehow, so let's go the venture capital approach and just pretend we won't eventually hit a growth cap and ruin our company Twitter-style when we get there. The craz…
I love a good pitchfork and torch session as much as the next rabble-rouser, but let's remember Cloudflare got popular because they _solved*_ a hard problem: how to deal with a DDOS, as a small or medium size website. Cloudflare's essentially a for-profit insurance pool for bandwidth. No individual site has enough bandwidth to handle a DDOS, nor can afford it, but pooled together, many sites can afford a service that…
"worked around" is more appropriate, and introduced huge problems with their workaround.
The correct solution is to punish ISPs that permit this behavior to continue unchecked. We need offense, not defense. Any ISP that doesn't detect and kill DDoS participants needs to be severely throttled by other ISPs. Organizations like the FCC should be tackling this and levying fines against US-based ISPs for non-compliance and lobbying for foreign policies that punish foreign ISPs.
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#24Telia had problems hitting many service providers. Not a Cloudflare problem per se. Plenty of non-Cloudflare stuff affected like Reddit, AWS, Fastly, ... Check out the dip in requests to Reddit: http://www.redditstatus.com/
Did Reddit stop using Cloudflare?
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#25Idea: let's proxy half the internet through a private, proprietary service! We can get people to give us valid SSL certificates for their sites, too, and let's fuck up Tor while we're at it. We can totally handle it, right? Oh, and we need to pay for it somehow, so let's go the venture capital approach and just pretend we won't eventually hit a growth cap and ruin our company Twitter-style when we get there. The craz…
I love a good pitchfork and torch session as much as the next rabble-rouser, but let's remember Cloudflare got popular because they _solved*_ a hard problem: how to deal with a DDOS, as a small or medium size website. Cloudflare's essentially a for-profit insurance pool for bandwidth. No individual site has enough bandwidth to handle a DDOS, nor can afford it, but pooled together, many sites can afford a service that…
Centralization was absolutely the best answer to that problem and will be for a long time. Almost nobody but fortune 500 companies would be able to survive a DDoS otherwise.
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#26Idea: let's proxy half the internet through a private, proprietary service! We can get people to give us valid SSL certificates for their sites, too, and let's fuck up Tor while we're at it. We can totally handle it, right? Oh, and we need to pay for it somehow, so let's go the venture capital approach and just pretend we won't eventually hit a growth cap and ruin our company Twitter-style when we get there. The craz…
I love a good pitchfork and torch session as much as the next rabble-rouser, but let's remember Cloudflare got popular because they _solved*_ a hard problem: how to deal with a DDOS, as a small or medium size website. Cloudflare's essentially a for-profit insurance pool for bandwidth. No individual site has enough bandwidth to handle a DDOS, nor can afford it, but pooled together, many sites can afford a service that…
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#27Idea: let's proxy half the internet through a private, proprietary service! We can get people to give us valid SSL certificates for their sites, too, and let's fuck up Tor while we're at it. We can totally handle it, right? Oh, and we need to pay for it somehow, so let's go the venture capital approach and just pretend we won't eventually hit a growth cap and ruin our company Twitter-style when we get there. The craz…
Cloudflare has a freemium model, so maybe you should find a better comparison than Twitter.
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#281) did we break our client server
2) did our internet provider die
3) did the service die
What are recommended ways of finding out fast and reliably in these cases where the fault is.
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#29Idea: let's proxy half the internet through a private, proprietary service! We can get people to give us valid SSL certificates for their sites, too, and let's fuck up Tor while we're at it. We can totally handle it, right? Oh, and we need to pay for it somehow, so let's go the venture capital approach and just pretend we won't eventually hit a growth cap and ruin our company Twitter-style when we get there. The craz…
Centralization comes with risks, but I think the risk is absolutely acceptable in this case until we come up with a better, decentralized approach to attacks that normal people can afford.