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Facebook told advertisers it can identify teens feeling 'insecure', 'worthless'

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Re: Facebook told advertisers it can identify teens feeling 'insecure', 'worthless'

#11

Why don't we have a subscription based, non-tracking, ad-free social network yet??

Is that a serious question? Social networks are dependent on network effects. Having a subscription immediately increases the barrier to entry too high for people to be able to get their friends on the same platform.

Re: Facebook told advertisers it can identify teens feeling 'insecure', 'worthless'

#13

Why don't we have a subscription based, non-tracking, ad-free social network yet??

Is that a serious question? Social networks are dependent on network effects. Having a subscription immediately increases the barrier to entry too high for people to be able to get their friends on the same platform.

Yes it is.

My feeling is that we have entered an age that youth is not naive anymore and would happily pay $3/month (at least in the US) for a non-tracking all-round communication service.

Re: Facebook told advertisers it can identify teens feeling 'insecure', 'worthless'

#14

Well it surely can't identify me. So now Facebook wants advertisers to try to sell kids pharmaceuticals or therapy? What good would that do?

Facebook seems to know I have ADHD and suggested a few "fidget toys". I actually like those ads.

I could see targeted ads for things like full-spectrum lights (used for people with seasonal affective disorder) or Headspace (app for meditation) being a good thing.

Re: Facebook told advertisers it can identify teens feeling 'insecure', 'worthless'

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that a serious question? Social networks are dependent on network effects. Having a subscription immediately increases the barrier to entry too high for people to be able to get their friends on the same platform.

Yes it is. My feeling is that we have entered an age that youth is not naive anymore and would happily pay $3/month (at least in the US) for a non-tracking all-round communication service.

SIKE!

Re: Facebook told advertisers it can identify teens feeling 'insecure', 'worthless'

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that a serious question? Social networks are dependent on network effects. Having a subscription immediately increases the barrier to entry too high for people to be able to get their friends on the same platform.

Yes it is. My feeling is that we have entered an age that youth is not naive anymore and would happily pay $3/month (at least in the US) for a non-tracking all-round communication service.

Just asked my teenage siblings and both of them responded that they don't care that they are tracked and aren't sure why they'd pay. Only an anecdote, but there you go.

Re: Facebook told advertisers it can identify teens feeling 'insecure', 'worthless'

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that a serious question? Social networks are dependent on network effects. Having a subscription immediately increases the barrier to entry too high for people to be able to get their friends on the same platform.

Yes it is. My feeling is that we have entered an age that youth is not naive anymore and would happily pay $3/month (at least in the US) for a non-tracking all-round communication service.

I'm afraid there's not much to suggest that's the case.

Re: Facebook told advertisers it can identify teens feeling 'insecure', 'worthless'

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes it is. My feeling is that we have entered an age that youth is not naive anymore and would happily pay $3/month (at least in the US) for a non-tracking all-round communication service.

Just asked my teenage siblings and both of them responded that they don't care that they are tracked and aren't sure why they'd pay. Only an anecdote, but there you go.

Maybe it is just wishful thinking on my part then :D

Re: Facebook told advertisers it can identify teens feeling 'insecure', 'worthless'

#19

Why don't we have a subscription based, non-tracking, ad-free social network yet??

The only way for other business models to work will be to ban collecting invasive info about your users. Otherwise we're stuck with the spy-vertising economy forever. Boycotts (Boycott what? Most of the Internet at this point?) won't work for the same reason we can't just rely on boycotts to enforce e.g environmental regulations or safe workplace standards.

Re: Facebook told advertisers it can identify teens feeling 'insecure', 'worthless'

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that a serious question? Social networks are dependent on network effects. Having a subscription immediately increases the barrier to entry too high for people to be able to get their friends on the same platform.

Yes it is. My feeling is that we have entered an age that youth is not naive anymore and would happily pay $3/month (at least in the US) for a non-tracking all-round communication service.

I'm pretty skeptical of this claim. The barrier from $0.00 to $0.01 is huge, and it's even moreso with people young enough to not have credit cards.

It's not that "oh, if it'd succeed someone would have done it by now," but the attempts I've seen at this make me think that it'd be very difficult to even try.

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