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Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably just build a Mac tower

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Re: Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably just build a Mac tower

#81

Can anyone tell me their experiences running a virtual hackintosh? In my current job I don't need a mac anymore, so I'm switching to a NUC which I'm thinking it'll be best to run Qubes on. But I do have existing mac/ios projects that I'd like to support, thus the need for a virtual hackintosh.

It's better to dual boot. As mentioned graphics acceleration doesn't work which breaks a surprising amount of things. There's a good chance it will work on a NUC.

Re: Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably just build a Mac tower

#82
post #67

May be it's just me, but I don't really care about design at all. I'm perfectly fine with huge tower or some reasonable fan noise. What I care is price, durability, extendability, repairability, and, of course, performance. I'm not really into macOS, I can use Linux or Windows just fine, but macOS is not that bad. I'm actually opposed to thin things or design aberrations like trash can mac. I'm paying for that after…

"(15 years or something like that)" I'm curious how you came up with that number? Are you currently still using anything PC related from 2002?

Not op, but basically:

Most of my pc cases are easily 15 years old. They have been upgraded when needed and have none of the same parts, but at no point did I have to trash the entire thing and start over. Just the simple standard of having mobos and pss fit has been incredibly useful in decreasing waste, both physical and monitary. Obviously this whole poiny is moot with apples current hardware strategy becoming even more untouchable black box like.

And i'm on HN so I obviously use a model M from the late 80s early 90s. No scarcasm here.

Re: Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably just build a Mac tower

#83

Boy did they drop the football in this area. I always thought the advantage to making the switch to more common PC architectures was the ability to keep pace and support a wider array of components and technologies. Instead, they over-designed the enclosure and froze the high-end range of the platform. Creating a simple, but reliable tower design (optimized for speed rather than size) would have been extremely well r…

Deleted this comment because it's apparently rubbing people the wrong way that I experienced poor performance using Adobe programs on a Windows machine and decided to share that experience.

Re: Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably just build a Mac tower

#84
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uhhhh. I put my time in with a Linux desktop for nearly a decade until a job bought me a Mac and there's no way I'd go back. And I think my "hacker end of the spectrum" bona fides are pretty good--but those bona fides aren't incompatible with a preference for a pleasing UX that has been considered with users in mind, which for my money no open-source desktop environment has even approached (and I have my beefs with O…

Woah, woah, my comment never said that people who prefer macOS to Linux/*BSD are inferior hackers. I think I was clear that I was differentiating between the software that I run and the software that a creative professional is required to run. That is, I have a choice where to run my dev stacks, while a graphic designer is probably a captive Adobe CS user. And yes, that's exactly what I meant by "qualitative experien…

It's funny that you say that an Adobe CS user is "captive", but you don't consider yourself "captive" to the superior Linux hacker tools. Ie: why is the creative user captive, but you are free.

If you wanted to move to macOS/Windows you couldn't, because you wouldn't bear their inferiority when it comes to hacker things, so aren't you also captive?

Re: Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably just build a Mac tower

#85
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just design, there's also a heavy reliance on Mac only (or at least Mac and Windows only) pro video and audio programs. I will say though, I've always loved running Linux on desktops where this isn't the use case.

> It's not just design, there's also a heavy reliance on Mac only (or at least Mac and Windows only) pro video and audio programs. It's even more so in programming. Go to any developer conference, whether it's for Rails, C, Java, Haskell or whatever: a huge percentage there will have MacBook Pros, much much more than the percentage of Mac users in the general market (e.g 10% in the general market and 40 to 60% in dev…

> "Mac's are for users who don't know about computers"

I honestly haven't heard that argument in years from anyone I'd consider in touch with the current state of tech.

And for a decade I was right there with you on the OSX == *nix plus creature comforts.

But the landscape has changed since that argument held sway for me. Linux has gotten way less fiddly, and the size of my scripts to keep macOS on the straight and narrow has gotten larger.

Re: Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably just build a Mac tower

#86

Boy did they drop the football in this area. I always thought the advantage to making the switch to more common PC architectures was the ability to keep pace and support a wider array of components and technologies. Instead, they over-designed the enclosure and froze the high-end range of the platform. Creating a simple, but reliable tower design (optimized for speed rather than size) would have been extremely well r…

Deleted this comment because it's apparently rubbing people the wrong way that I experienced poor performance using Adobe programs on a Windows machine and decided to share that experience.

Could be the disk speed.

Re: Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably just build a Mac tower

#87

Boy did they drop the football in this area. I always thought the advantage to making the switch to more common PC architectures was the ability to keep pace and support a wider array of components and technologies. Instead, they over-designed the enclosure and froze the high-end range of the platform. Creating a simple, but reliable tower design (optimized for speed rather than size) would have been extremely well r…

Deleted this comment because it's apparently rubbing people the wrong way that I experienced poor performance using Adobe programs on a Windows machine and decided to share that experience.

I've never heard that PS is supposed to run better on one platform. From my personal experience there's no difference. PS performs bad pretty much platform-independently. However I'd love to see some tests about this.

Re: Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably just build a Mac tower

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post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Woah, woah, my comment never said that people who prefer macOS to Linux/*BSD are inferior hackers. I think I was clear that I was differentiating between the software that I run and the software that a creative professional is required to run. That is, I have a choice where to run my dev stacks, while a graphic designer is probably a captive Adobe CS user. And yes, that's exactly what I meant by "qualitative experien…

It's funny that you say that an Adobe CS user is "captive", but you don't consider yourself "captive" to the superior Linux hacker tools. Ie: why is the creative user captive, but you are free. If you wanted to move to macOS/Windows you couldn't, because you wouldn't bear their inferiority when it comes to hacker things, so aren't you also captive?

Easy, because I could and occasionally do run my tools on Windows and macOS. And from some of the responses here, it's clear that some people do prefer that.

But, if I wanted to buy the latest Adobe Creative Suite and run it in Linux, I have no real recourse.

So I guess in that sense, my statement could be made more precisely as: Obligate users of such commercial software suites as Adobe Creative Suite are captive users of either Windows or macOS.

Re: Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably just build a Mac tower

#89
post #80

I purchased this ( https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Dell-In... ) laptop from the Microsoft store, paying right around ~$700 with a student discount. I bought an m.2 solid state and a wifi adapter that is known to work well with hackintosh's (the stock wifi card wasn't compatible), and another 8gb of ram for another ~$150. I followed this ( https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/guide-dell-inspiron-15-…

Thanks for the post, do you know what other 4k laptops are currently a popular choice for hackintoshing?

I'm getting back into it, but a quick look at https://www.tonymacx86.com/forums/sierra-laptop-guides.189/?... tells me that it's still pretty early for 4k hackintosh laptops. Looks like the one I got was one of the first ones.

If I had unlimited funds, I would probably just build a desktop, since they have a really good monthly recap of what hardware works with the current software. https://www.tonymacx86.com/buyersguide/april/2017

I guess that's sort of where the line is drawn is you can't really "build" a laptop. Seems like there are a few good Dell models that chose hardware that works with mac, though. I'm sure in the near future we'll start seeing more 4k capable hackintosh laptops.

Re: Modern “Hackintoshes” show that Apple should probably just build a Mac tower

#90

Boy did they drop the football in this area. I always thought the advantage to making the switch to more common PC architectures was the ability to keep pace and support a wider array of components and technologies. Instead, they over-designed the enclosure and froze the high-end range of the platform. Creating a simple, but reliable tower design (optimized for speed rather than size) would have been extremely well r…

Deleted this comment because it's apparently rubbing people the wrong way that I experienced poor performance using Adobe programs on a Windows machine and decided to share that experience.

I use Creative Suite regularly on both PC and Mac and haven't really seen a difference in speed at all. All 3 computers I run it on have SSDs, though. Are you running SSD on the Windows side?
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