You still need rich parents, because you're not allowed to work much to support yourself.
Why Germany Educates International Students for Free
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#22Certainly laudable. How does one "stick around" after graduation - do you have to learn German?
You probably will need to learn german and to find an employer that likes you enough to jump the beurocracy hoops for you (signing that they couldn't find any germans to do the job with some proof of rejected german candidates).
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#23Should I study engineering in Germany?
I'm looking at undergrad programs in California right now and the numbers don't add up for me. Not just tuition, but cost of living as a full time student as well. I also feel like it would be much easier for me (a non-traditional student) to get into a better university over there, as they pretty much just look at your test scores. Not all this GPA/extra-curricular "well rounded" stuff they do here. Do they provide many undergrad programs in English? Are the degrees accredited in the US?
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#24> in Germany, students -- on the whole -- famously pay no tuition fees, regardless of where they come from. Seen from the U.S. or Britain, this policy may appear either supremely principled or incredibly naïve “Britain”? Do they perhaps mean England? The other three nations of the United Kingdom have either free (Scotland) or vastly cheaper (Wales, Northern Ireland) university tuition fees.
I think the key part is "regardless of where they come from". For instance, Scotland has free tuition for the Scottish and other EU citizens, but not for citizens of England/Wales/NI or international students. (The fees for an English person are typically cheaper than other English universities, but still not to be sniffed at).
I am not sure about NI or Wales, but I imagine there's a similar situation.
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#25Funny. I took care of foreign students in my German university and they get exploited the hell out. At first they pay more than German students for the same semester, despite having worse chances to succeed (language barrier, culture barrier, fewer friends/family etc). Then they have to join preparation courses one way or another, because, you know, German isn't easy. Then they hardly get access to the public student…
> Old dudes (teachers, profs, organizers) dating barely legal girls I highly doubt that a lot of "barely legal girls" would be in universities since, in Germany, 16-year-olds are considered fully "legal" in that particular regard.
> 16-year-olds are considered fully "legal" in that particular regard.
Not quite correct. See https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__182.html and https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__174.html
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#26> in Germany, students -- on the whole -- famously pay no tuition fees, regardless of where they come from. Seen from the U.S. or Britain, this policy may appear either supremely principled or incredibly naïve “Britain”? Do they perhaps mean England? The other three nations of the United Kingdom have either free (Scotland) or vastly cheaper (Wales, Northern Ireland) university tuition fees.
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#27You still need rich parents, because you're not allowed to work much to support yourself.
Hint: This is the same for every student. If you want to work full-time you need to make your studies half-time.
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#28Another possible reason - they may well have little choice!
Lists of top ranked universities are generally dominated by the US/UK. In this list the highest ranked German institution is at number 30: https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankin...
It's always going to be hard to charge the same as a competitor when your product is inferior.
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#29Funny. I took care of foreign students in my German university and they get exploited the hell out. At first they pay more than German students for the same semester, despite having worse chances to succeed (language barrier, culture barrier, fewer friends/family etc). Then they have to join preparation courses one way or another, because, you know, German isn't easy. Then they hardly get access to the public student…
I don't believe a word.
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#30You still need rich parents, because you're not allowed to work much to support yourself.
Hint: This is the same for every student. If you want to work full-time you need to make your studies half-time.
Germans can get state-support ("Bafög") if the parents can't support, they can work self-employed and they can take non-"student-jobs" which opens the possibility to earn significantly more than minimum-wage.
They can also work more than 20h/week, loose their student-status and still study.