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Re: Dell's list of why to buy one with Ubuntu

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I'm as big a fan of Ubuntu as anyone, and I'm glad to see Dell supporting a MS alternative. However, the absence of a fully supported Linux version of iTunes prevents me from adopting Ubuntu as my primary operating system.

Run a VM with Windows just for iTunes.

I used to do that, but I think now the better recommendation is just to ditch Apple. My HTC Incredible is a great phone, and I love Amarok.

Re: Dell's list of why to buy one with Ubuntu

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Run a VM with Windows just for iTunes.

I used to do that, but I think now the better recommendation is just to ditch Apple. My HTC Incredible is a great phone, and I love Amarok.

Having just switched from Amarok 1.x to 2.x, I'm underwhelmed. But as a linux user I have never used, nor needed itunes.

Re: Dell's list of why to buy one with Ubuntu

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Isn't it a little misguided to claim that AnitVirus stuff is unwarranted?? Granted you are unlikely to be infected by a virus on linux/unix machine, but that doesn't mean that you can't pass a virus along to one of your Windows buddies, or that linux/unix machines will never be targeted in the future. A non tech customer may take this as gospel and not be aware that they are actually not immune to such things.

Re: Dell's list of why to buy one with Ubuntu

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Their list isn't compelling. Especially for a mainstream consumer. The list basically argues that Ubuntu doesn't suck. Most of the topics try to position Ubuntu as comparable to Windows. Being comparable isn't going to motivate a consumer to switch. Especially when they have been using Windows for xx years. Too much selling features, not enough selling benefits.

It's free. When that's your starting point, "it doesn't suck" is pretty compelling.

But I don't see them calling that out very well.

Re: Dell's list of why to buy one with Ubuntu

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The Games checkbox was a little misleading. The vast majority of the types of games a typical Windows PC "Joe Blow" kind of user expects to play are Windows-only and/or don't run (or run well anyway) on Linux. Some games, yes. And Flash or browser-based games, sure.

PC games will run with wine, but that isn't exactly out of the box like the check list presents.

Re: Dell's list of why to buy one with Ubuntu

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Surprised Dell is so enthusiastic as some of the claims aren't quite the whole truth... Like stating that openoffice is not available in windows, or that MS Office formats are fully supported. Regardless, I get more and more respect for Dell as they continue to embrace MS alternatives.

I think they are trying to point out the options - MS office vs. Open Office. People visually scan lists like these and ignore the rows where the both products are identical. If they checked that MS supported open office, the natural way to read this list is that Ubuntu doesn't support office of any kind, which isn't the point they are trying to make.

Re: Dell's list of why to buy one with Ubuntu

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The Games checkbox was a little misleading. The vast majority of the types of games a typical Windows PC "Joe Blow" kind of user expects to play are Windows-only and/or don't run (or run well anyway) on Linux. Some games, yes. And Flash or browser-based games, sure.

PC games will run with wine, but that isn't exactly out of the box like the check list presents.

On ubuntu this is getting really much easier than it used to.

Re: Dell's list of why to buy one with Ubuntu

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post #14

Their list isn't compelling. Especially for a mainstream consumer. The list basically argues that Ubuntu doesn't suck. Most of the topics try to position Ubuntu as comparable to Windows. Being comparable isn't going to motivate a consumer to switch. Especially when they have been using Windows for xx years. Too much selling features, not enough selling benefits.

http://i.dell.com/images/us/segments/dhs/banners/windows_ubu...

Photo Editing with The GIMP is FREE on Microsoft Windows AND Ubuntu. Anti-Virus and Anti-Spyware are FREE on Microsoft Windows using Avast! (and alternatives). OpenOffice is available for FREE on Microsoft Windows. OpenOffice, while quite good, is not 100% Microsoft Office compatible.

I've used Linux for over 15 years; hate Windows with a passion. Hate lies even more.

Re: Dell's list of why to buy one with Ubuntu

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Hmm, arguing GNU/Linux is better than Windows on security is passé. Torvalds too often dismisses security bugs.

Not an expert on windows security, but the traditional answer is the fundamental user handling in Unix solves a lot of problems. I admit ignorance to the validity of the claim, a detailed comparison would be appreciated.

Please forgive any errors here: Windows has never been my primary OS.

Windows NT has had users and permissions providing similar functionality to what Unix offers for a very long time[0]. NT ACLs have actually been more sophisticated than standard Unix permissions for at least ten years.

The problem on Windows is the defaults and the behavior of third-party developers. Windows developers worked for a long time with the expectation that the system was single-user (Win9x) or that the user had administrator privileges, making doing anything else annoying at best. XP defaulted to making everybody an administrator, at least in the home edition. That has changed with Vista and Win7.

[0] I think some versions targeted at home users do not expose the full ACL functionality.

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