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Re: Goodbye Amazon

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Post by icc97 » Fri, Apr 28, 2017, 6:21 PM UTC

There seems to be a lot of negativity about this. They Site-1 product they make looks beautiful and is made in the US. I really applaud them for doing this and I wish more companies would. Making beautiful long lasting products.

If you've got a beautiful casing to the speakers you can upgrade internal components and that looks like one of the things they offer.

If nothing else then hopefully this post will prevent other's with custom products that don't suit Amazon from going down that route.

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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Post by anilshanbhag » Fri, Apr 28, 2017, 6:22 PM UTC

I can't seem to find their product on Amazon. Curious to see who on Amazon today would buy a <$50 bluetooth speaker for $300+ !

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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Post by awqrre » Fri, Apr 28, 2017, 6:22 PM UTC

jasode wrote: post #4

>Our Site:1 speakers are lovingly handcrafted. We make them one at a time, to our customer's desired spec, [...] If all goes smoothly, this process takes about six weeks. >Amazon relentlessly pushed us to accept lead-times that were typically only four days, and sometimes demanded fulfillment of orders in as little as 24 hours--including delivery. Amazon is not really an appropriate distribution platform for 6-week c…

Amazon is also a lot like aliexpress... you can order some stuff from china that takes one month to get to you.

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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Post by pnathan » Fri, Apr 28, 2017, 6:24 PM UTC

hangonhn wrote: post #13

This is a just an ad or marketing stunt for the company. As most of you pointed out, they picked the wrong distributor for their business model. Now they are mad and severing relationships. However, 75% of the article is about their company and their handcrafted products. Then they offer a discount at the bottom tells you everything you need to know what this is really about. This is a publicity and marketing stunt.

So is Hacker News?

I mean, let's not delude ourselves here. Most corporate things are intended to feed into the bottom line in some fashion. That's business. It's not dishonest of the company to be working to improve their image and provide buzz.

"Start a beef" is an old saw...

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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Post by jpetso » Fri, Apr 28, 2017, 6:28 PM UTC

monochromatic wrote: post #20

hannob wrote: post #7

When I read sentences like this: "We steadfastly refuse to be purveyors of cheap, plastic, mass-produced, craptastic speakers made on an assembly line in China that contribute nothing of value to the lives of our customers or the town we call home." I'm always amazed how much subtle racism seems to be acceptable when it comes to talking about China. This sentence contains so many hidden assumptions, e.g. "product fro…

There's nothing racist about recognizing that a lot of cheap crap products are made in China, nor about caring more about your own community than other communities.

Correct, giving preference to your own community compared to others is commonly associated with terms such as nationalism, protectionism or cronyism. Racism can and often does happen among members of the same (local) community.

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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Post by BeetleB » Fri, Apr 28, 2017, 6:30 PM UTC

Dayshine wrote: post #3

>I'll repeat that: Amazon.com, a reseller, told us that we were not allowed to raise the price of our own product for any reason. I don't believe this... Were you actually selling using "Sell on Amazon/Fulfilment by Amazon"? Or some 3rd party using Amazon for you...? >Amazon's policy is to never return unsold products to manufacturers https://services.amazon.co.uk/services/fulfilment-by-amazon/... says that: >Typical…

>I'll repeat that: Amazon.com, a reseller, told us that we were not allowed to raise the price of our own product for any reason.

Yeah, I gave up when I read that.

The seller is not selling via FBA.

In fact, the seller is not selling his items on Amazon! Amazon is selling his items on Amazon.

Amazon's behavior is not any different from any other large retailer. Amazon should control what price they charge the customers, just as you would have control if you set up your own store.

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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Post by Demiurge » Fri, Apr 28, 2017, 6:31 PM UTC

Enough has been said about the fact that an online retailer is not a good fit for a custom made-to-order shop, these are the opposite in so many ways.

I wanted to share my opinion that Studio monitors like Yamaha HS80 is practically the best sound quality I've been able to attain, with the price much less than custom 'tonewood' and 'hand crafted' speakers. By having the best possible range and accuracy on the output, after sound proofing the environment as wanted, I can apply any EQ and filtering I want for pleasure or mixing, and if desired I could also record/recreate impulse response of other speakers. Good monitors are less than 1k, and I'm seeing people spend thousands on cargo cult nonsense. Anyway, I'm glad I didn't become one of those people, give monitors a try if you want good sound.

I even got some ~$300 monitors for my parents TV, and they say that it sounds better any other setups they've tried. In fact, they have now started listening to music through TV a lot.

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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Post by flubert » Fri, Apr 28, 2017, 6:31 PM UTC

jasode wrote: post #81

flubert wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Amazon is not really an appropriate distribution platform for 6-week custom-made-to-order products. Maybe there's another well-known retail site that caters to that type of vendor but it certainly isn't Amazon (or Walmart). But there is Amazon Handmade (which is supposed to be the Amazon Etsy): https://services.amazon.com/handmade/handmade.html ...and Amazon Custom: https://services.amazon.com/custom.html ..and Amaz…

>...so it looks like Amazon has their hands in other areas besides distribution of mass manufactured parts. For your 3 examples, I clicked on "Explore the store" and of the dozen or so random items I clicked on, it was 1 to 3 days delivery. I also found a wooden cutting board that you could personalize with a customer name (laser etching) and that was 3 to 6 business days. I didn't see any item that said 6 weeks for…

>I didn't see any item that said 6 weeks of delivery like Etsy has.

I'm no Amazon Homemade expert, but there are plenty of items that say they take time to make: