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Re: Goodbye Amazon

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>Our Site:1 speakers are lovingly handcrafted. We make them one at a time, to our customer's desired spec, [...] If all goes smoothly, this process takes about six weeks. >Amazon relentlessly pushed us to accept lead-times that were typically only four days, and sometimes demanded fulfillment of orders in as little as 24 hours--including delivery. Amazon is not really an appropriate distribution platform for 6-week c…

Etsy. The site you're thinking of is Etsy.

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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When I read sentences like this: "We steadfastly refuse to be purveyors of cheap, plastic, mass-produced, craptastic speakers made on an assembly line in China that contribute nothing of value to the lives of our customers or the town we call home." I'm always amazed how much subtle racism seems to be acceptable when it comes to talking about China. This sentence contains so many hidden assumptions, e.g. "product fro…

That assumption once applied to Made in Japan. If you go back even longer, it once even applied to things made in North America.

Yes this assumption has been applied to many "developing" countries no fully developed. This includes Japan, but also Korea (remember the reputation that Kia and Hyundai used to have? very similar to the reputations that Nissan, Honda, and Toyota used to have) and Taiwan.

People forgot, but post WW2 this also applied to German engineering!

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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post #7

When I read sentences like this: "We steadfastly refuse to be purveyors of cheap, plastic, mass-produced, craptastic speakers made on an assembly line in China that contribute nothing of value to the lives of our customers or the town we call home." I'm always amazed how much subtle racism seems to be acceptable when it comes to talking about China. This sentence contains so many hidden assumptions, e.g. "product fro…

I know. So many things are made in China which are not crap, like iPhones. Also sad is how entitled people slag poor assembly line workers in China and yet have a higher quality of life due to the money they save on inexpensive goods.

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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Our Site:1 speakers are lovingly handcrafted. We make them one at a time, to our customer's desired spec, using their preferred tonewoods, choice of hardware, as well as other unique customizations. ... The only way to meet their demands would have been to mass-produce huge volumes of speakers featuring no customizations. How is Amazon even possibly a good place to sell this kind of an item? People overwhelmingly go…

Actually, it looks like they are making nice wood cabinets for cheap low-quality parts: - a "full range" 3" speaker is about $7, quantity 1. - a 20W at 10% THD class D amplifier with bluetooth input is $25, retail. (Yes, that's a terrible spec. It's what Princeton claims.) - a battery is $8 - a few dollars for a fancy knob and grille. So they are charging about $300 for their cabinets and integration of all the above…

Can you do a breakdown for a MacBook Pro for me. I paid over 3k for the latest one. I'd love to know how much all the parts cost sans casing and integration.

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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This is a just an ad or marketing stunt for the company. As most of you pointed out, they picked the wrong distributor for their business model. Now they are mad and severing relationships. However, 75% of the article is about their company and their handcrafted products. Then they offer a discount at the bottom tells you everything you need to know what this is really about. This is a publicity and marketing stunt.

Dude. Every article ever written is a publicity and marketing stunt. Some are just more obvious about it than others

Re: Goodbye Amazon

#46
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And the risk of keeping inventory value that you're never going to sell. Amazon takes their speakers, but will never send the unsold units back. Making expensive speakers according to MRP projections with no reliable demand is a time-bomb for a small company like this one. Especially if they're already unsatisfied with Amazon's performance, why would they risk thousands of dollars worth of product for no reason? It d…

https://services.amazon.co.uk/services/fulfilment-by-amazon/... >Requesting a Removal Order (Return or Disposal) of Product Units >What is a removal order? >It’s either a return of a product unit back to you or a disposal of the merchandise by the Fulfilment Centre. >How long will it take to get the item(s) back? >Typically, return requests take 10 to 14 business days to pick, pack and dispatch.

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Re: Goodbye Amazon

#47
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>Our Site:1 speakers are lovingly handcrafted. We make them one at a time, to our customer's desired spec, [...] If all goes smoothly, this process takes about six weeks. >Amazon relentlessly pushed us to accept lead-times that were typically only four days, and sometimes demanded fulfillment of orders in as little as 24 hours--including delivery. Amazon is not really an appropriate distribution platform for 6-week c…

As a customer of Amazon I think Amazon should definitely be an appropriate distribution platform for anything. They have digital downloads, monthly subscripts, extremely large items; I don't think it's unreasonable to allow items with long fulfillment times (especially items handcrafted based on customer request). I've been very fed up with Amazon's selection, the number of scams and reduced quality on Amazon has see…

> antidotally

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twitch

It's "anecdotally*.

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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post #44
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, it looks like they are making nice wood cabinets for cheap low-quality parts: - a "full range" 3" speaker is about $7, quantity 1. - a 20W at 10% THD class D amplifier with bluetooth input is $25, retail. (Yes, that's a terrible spec. It's what Princeton claims.) - a battery is $8 - a few dollars for a fancy knob and grille. So they are charging about $300 for their cabinets and integration of all the above…

Can you do a breakdown for a MacBook Pro for me. I paid over 3k for the latest one. I'd love to know how much all the parts cost sans casing and integration.

I like your brand of sarcasm.

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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They could have used Amazon Custom (which is a new service that's mostly focused on apparel, but still) or Amazon Handmade (Amazon's Etsy clone) instead of using the typical system for selling manufactured products. They were setting themselves up for failure by selling an artisan product on a marketplace designed for factory produced goods. It makes no sense to criticize Amazon for being what it is, which is mostly…

I am a huge amazon customer and fan. Thank you for mentioning Amazon Handmade ... I had no idea it existed. How odd is that? I don't think I've seen an email from them about it and it never shows in product searches.

Re: Goodbye Amazon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a customer of Amazon I think Amazon should definitely be an appropriate distribution platform for anything. They have digital downloads, monthly subscripts, extremely large items; I don't think it's unreasonable to allow items with long fulfillment times (especially items handcrafted based on customer request). I've been very fed up with Amazon's selection, the number of scams and reduced quality on Amazon has see…

> antidotally ... twitch It's "anecdotally*.

Yup, I make that mistake all the time; thanks for catching it. I'll admit my previous post was a bit of a knee jerk, I've been trying to find an alternative to Amazon for a long time now, after being burned by scammers on their site.

I agree with a lot of other points people have made (yes, the original post smacks of a marketing, yes Amazon as it stands isn't a good distribution channel for them). But I wish Amazon were a good distribution channel for them. I'd prefer one of these companies on Amazon over a dozen knock off brands.

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