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DHL pilot alleges poor labor practices that are spreading throughout industry

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Re: DHL pilot alleges poor labor practices that are spreading throughout industry

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post #50

Welcome to the world of competitive market. This is how capitalism works. This article is filled with emotion and lack of facts. You express how difficult your job is however 80% of the time the computer is doing all of your job. This is why a lot of tech companies are focusing on AI driving/flying automation. Of course it is good to have a pilot on the plain but very little is done now days by him. You only bear the…

There is no such entity as a business. Every business is a collection of individuals and I have trouble believing that every one of those individuals holds only profit, and the consequent race to the bottom, as a favourable outcome. It's a sad state of affairs where a group behaves in the opposite fashion to how they would behave as individuals.

Re: DHL pilot alleges poor labor practices that are spreading throughout industry

#53
post #16

Sounds like you need some socialism in yer country. But I guess tax cuts to companies will help.

Maybe tax cuts to corporations would help. If a company that was previously keeping 65% of profits started keeping 85% due to lower taxes perhaps they would invest some of that in employee pay / benefits / more employees. Of course, they also have the choice to just keep the extra money for themselves.

Ha ha hilarious. You don't think they'll just pay larger C-suite salaries?

The question you should ask is: who has the power in this relationship? If the pilots unionized properly, they'd have the power to demand higher wages or better conditions.

Re: DHL pilot alleges poor labor practices that are spreading throughout industry

#54
post #16

Sounds like you need some socialism in yer country. But I guess tax cuts to companies will help.

Maybe tax cuts to corporations would help. If a company that was previously keeping 65% of profits started keeping 85% due to lower taxes perhaps they would invest some of that in employee pay / benefits / more employees. Of course, they also have the choice to just keep the extra money for themselves.

You just answered yourself how the myth of "trickle down" works in reality in your last sentence.

Re: DHL pilot alleges poor labor practices that are spreading throughout industry

#55
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think transportation is an incredibly important (food!), but the way this is written seems incredibly tone-deaf. He should have focused on the facts (if there are any) about incident rates and length of time flying, instead of saying how his dream of connecting "our great country with the rest of the world" is being jeopardized.

To be fair, the emotional approach is what actually works in the vast majority of cases. Normal people don't connect with or understand facts. I think this might be a case of content audience mismatch.

"The essential characteristic of the Argument from Intimidation is its appeal to moral self-doubt and its reliance on the fear, guilt or ignorance of the victim. It is used in the form of an ultimatum demanding that the victim renounce a given idea without discussion, under threat of being considered morally unworthy. The pattern is always: “Only those who are evil (dishonest, heartless, insensitive, ignorant, etc.) can hold such an idea.”"

Re: DHL pilot alleges poor labor practices that are spreading throughout industry

#56
post #50

Welcome to the world of competitive market. This is how capitalism works. This article is filled with emotion and lack of facts. You express how difficult your job is however 80% of the time the computer is doing all of your job. This is why a lot of tech companies are focusing on AI driving/flying automation. Of course it is good to have a pilot on the plain but very little is done now days by him. You only bear the…

> Stop blaming businesses, they have a very predictable morality - profit.

Anarcho-capitalism cannot be the final goal for our society. If businesses try to circumvent important regulations that were implemented to protect employees, they need to be stopped. Burnout and depression is on the rise in first-world nations and the constant stress doesn't help there.

Re: DHL pilot alleges poor labor practices that are spreading throughout industry

#57
post #2

Not entirely sure what he's talking about. Seems like he should have a word with Southwestern Air instead of blaming DHL and Amazon. While they undoubtedly contribute, putting all the blame on their shoulders seems a bit silly.

is Southwestern Air really independent when the largest shareholder is DHL, and DHL owns and leases the planes to Southwestern?

Even if you can claim the board or management of Southwestern is "independent" what, exactly, can they do? all their inputs are literally owned by DHL.

Re: DHL pilot alleges poor labor practices that are spreading throughout industry

#58
post #16

Sounds like you need some socialism in yer country. But I guess tax cuts to companies will help.

Maybe tax cuts to corporations would help. If a company that was previously keeping 65% of profits started keeping 85% due to lower taxes perhaps they would invest some of that in employee pay / benefits / more employees. Of course, they also have the choice to just keep the extra money for themselves.

hasn't enough been written, using historical numbers and factual mathematics, that plainly shows this idea of "trickle down economics" is depressingly incorrect?

Re: DHL pilot alleges poor labor practices that are spreading throughout industry

#59
post #31

This isn't the first time we've heard first-hand accounts of massive companies treating workers like slaves. Amazon is already notorious for the ways it treats its warehouse workers. Once again, upward concentration of wealth in our country has created pressure on the people at the bottom to produce more, more, more. If you don't see the parallels to the time period leading up to the massive workers' rights reforms o…

There's a very big difference between a cargo pilot and an Amazon warehouse worker. Just because both feel treated unfairly, the warehouse worker will be much worse off. Cargo pilots dream of salaries that were usual in the past, warehouse workers just want to earn enough to have an acceptable lifestyle.

Re: DHL pilot alleges poor labor practices that are spreading throughout industry

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> We work long hours, fly in dangerous conditions and go through years of training, but we do it because we understand that our work is vital to keeping our economy humming.

No. Pilots become pilots because they love flying and because it pays well (mostly the former). Haven't heard of any pilot who chose the job because it's important for the economy.

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