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Do you really think he should be in prison for intellectual property infringement ?
For nine-figure fraud? What would you propose instead? (It's fraud when you take advantage by ignoring the established legal rules that everyone else is playing by, however suboptimal those rules are.)
Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
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Re: Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
#112Anthony is overrated and a complete psychopath. He doesn't understand it's basic right from wrong. In his mind IP is boundless and his, not Googles. This comes from 5 years of working in fairly close contact. Zero morals. He is what's wrong with Silicon Valley - on equal grounds to Travis from Uber. I can completely see this all being planned for years just like circumventing the iPhone App Store rules. As a Google s…
Do you really think he should be in prison for intellectual property infringement ?
Re: Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I really don't understand how people get greedy after earning that much money. Is it just the high/excitement the comes from it? Seems like money would no longer be motivating.
Many people around the world would say the same thing about the lifestyle enjoyed by the average commenter on this forum, but most of us don't think of our incomes that way. The average American does not need to live in the home size that has become desirable; they do it because they can. You can't set an arbitrary limit on when money ceases to be motivating. At $100M in net worth, you no longer need to compromise on…
> When the accumulation of wealth is no longer of high social importance, there will be great changes in the code of morals. We shall be able to rid ourselves of many of the pseudo-moral principles which have hag-ridden us for two hundred years, by which we have exalted some of the most distasteful of human qualities into the position of the highest virtues. We shall be able to afford to dare to assess the money-motive at its true value. The love of money as a possession — as distinguished from the love of money as a means to the enjoyments and realities of life — will be recognised for what it is, a somewhat disgusting morbidity, one of those semi-criminal, semi-pathological propensities which one hands over with a shudder to the specialists in mental disease.
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It's much worse in terms of $$$ compared to most muggings, why shouldn't it be a long term sentence? This is one of the major disconnects in modern society, stealing huge sums of money by rich middle aged white guys is a minor slap on the wrists but stealing a few dollars by young, black guys is let's send them to the slammer and throw away the key. It's so blatant and ingrained in the system that you can't even see…
An obvious difference between IP theft and muggings, however, is that the later also entails threats of violence (and sometimes even assault & battery). That's why robbery is generally considered more heinous than burglary, where the victims are typically not present or asleep. I'd agree though that some sort of dollar figure should be attached to the psychological trauma of being mugged, so that great-enough white-c…
Re: Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
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> Anthony is overrated Maybe. He did this. http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah... . At least that's what Google tells me :). Given your history with him, do you know how much of this is true? > and a complete psychopath Whoa.. When you say psychopath, I'm translating that to 'ruthless without any morals.' Can you give any examples without giving away other people's personal details? > As a Go…
GOOG and GOOGL are now shares in Alphabet. [1] We're all GOOG shareholders if we have a 401(k) with a large-cap index fund. As a GOOG shareholder, I want an Android phone that doesn't run out of battery after 8 hours of typical use, but I'm probably not gonna get it. 1. https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GOOG?p=^GOOG
Re: Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Anthony is overrated Maybe. He did this. http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah... . At least that's what Google tells me :). Given your history with him, do you know how much of this is true? > and a complete psychopath Whoa.. When you say psychopath, I'm translating that to 'ruthless without any morals.' Can you give any examples without giving away other people's personal details? > As a Go…
GOOG and GOOGL are now shares in Alphabet. [1] We're all GOOG shareholders if we have a 401(k) with a large-cap index fund. As a GOOG shareholder, I want an Android phone that doesn't run out of battery after 8 hours of typical use, but I'm probably not gonna get it. 1. https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GOOG?p=^GOOG
Re: Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
#117Anthony is overrated and a complete psychopath. He doesn't understand it's basic right from wrong. In his mind IP is boundless and his, not Googles. This comes from 5 years of working in fairly close contact. Zero morals. He is what's wrong with Silicon Valley - on equal grounds to Travis from Uber. I can completely see this all being planned for years just like circumventing the iPhone App Store rules. As a Google s…
My impression from working at Google was that lack of respect for property is unfortunately part of Google's culture. I've met this mindset on many occasions, so this whole lawsuit, as well as the fact that Levandowski was allowed to rise high at the company, doesn't surprise me a bit. It's just that in this case it was one of their own engineers using it against them, for a change.
Re: Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
#118Re: Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
#119Anthony is overrated and a complete psychopath. He doesn't understand it's basic right from wrong. In his mind IP is boundless and his, not Googles. This comes from 5 years of working in fairly close contact. Zero morals. He is what's wrong with Silicon Valley - on equal grounds to Travis from Uber. I can completely see this all being planned for years just like circumventing the iPhone App Store rules. As a Google s…
Do you really think he should be in prison for intellectual property infringement ?
Re: Uber’s Anthony Levandowski out as Advanced Technologies lead amid legal fight
#120Levandowski is clearly a brilliant character. Is it possible that he's not trying to maximize monetary gain but is instead optimizing for power over the technology? I sense that he's good with technical implementation but possibly terrible at technical leadership/the politics necessary for seeing one's vision through in a larger organization.
If viewed in this light, it seems that Levandowski has constantly been frustrated by the direction (or lack thereof) within the organizations he's been a part of. Rather than starting side companies and jumping ship for profit, he's really just trying to maintain control over whatever vision he has for lidar-enabled self-driving technology.
Now this strategy for power breaks down a bit, because he keeps selecting the local maxima in terms of opportunity. When Google comes calling, he accepts. When Uber comes calling, he accepts. Constantly convinced that the next place will give him the power/respect he thinks he deserves.
In the end, rather than building up IP from scratch and making a good name for himself, he's stolen a bunch of work from other engineers while potentially building a patent-infringing product. (thoughts x-posted from the other thread)