What specifically did the programmers in the cafe say or do to lead you to believe that there was "something odd about them"? Perhaps you remember one or two details that actually got you thinking about this.
You weren't meant to have a boss
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#62This of course favors upper middle class people as young company founders.
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#64Unfortunately, student loans constrain the freedom of action of many recent graduates. They have to have that income to make the payments, which can be quite high. This of course favors upper middle class people as young company founders.
I hope eventually they'll wise up and change the rules about student loans, because the intent of the rules about repayment is not simply to get the money back as soon as possible, but to discourage people from merely slacking after college. And on that scale founders are actually doing better than regular employees.
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#65"The only people who eat what humans were actually designed to eat are [a?] few Birkenstock-wearing weirdos in Berkeley."
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#66I am a 27 year old programmer and have worked for two small companies ( < 20 employees ) and for one company of 200+ employees. The only thing I can say about working for the large company is that it felt like breathing through a straw. Go work for a small company or as Paul Graham suggests, go start up your own. Leave the big companies for the burnt-out folk with kids and debt.
So qualify your employer carefully before you go to a small company. In particular, if they are using old technology, run away, nothing they do or say can be trusted.
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#69Has anyone else been to a Safari or seen wild life (read: Lions or Cheetahs) in their natural habitat? If you have, that metaphor of a caged Lion vs. a wild Lion is (almost) all you need to extract out of this essay.
I also used to wonder what is going on in the Lion's mind - some 10 jeeps surrounding it while it is resting in the shade and some oohs-and-aahs (and even though it is 1 pm, some idiot always has the flash-on by mistake).
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#70Corporates are more a feudal hierarchy, whereas startups I liken to the old guilds of Europe that evolved out of the feudal system, it has been said that programming is one of the few crafts left, and so the comparison may be appropriate. The guilds occurred because the craftsmen had skills that weren't available to all, and so could demand a premium for there services, much like programming (and writing, and graphic design - witness the recent writers strike)
Maybe there is a new republic on the way all we need is to lop off the heads of a few managers :-). Let them eat cake!