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Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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That's one of the definitions for the bullish lemma from the Oxford Dictionary.

Along with "Of or pertaining to papal bulls".

Which is also a valid use case.

Though the one I listed is the first lemma.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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I commented a while ago with the list of note apps I was considering to replace Evernote. Might save you some time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13642527

which one are you using now ?

Strangely enough I switched mainly to google keep for stuff I need to pin and set a reminder for a time/gps location, and a standard text editor + dropbox for the rest.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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I think I'm able to view all other gists. If I open the Gist on https://gist.github.com/ then go to the original gist at 'kobble-git/channel-groups.json' I can navigate to all the forks and see data for other users.

I'm one of the devs on Kobble. Kobble is a versatile tool that can be used in a variety of ways.

One way is as a content sharing platform. Gists are great for this purpose, because as you have noted, the discovery mechanisms are largely built into GitHub. Our use of gists for this purpose was entirely intentional. On top of that, we have built a flexible data model (similar to YouTube) for organizing and sharing the content. We are attempting to build an open content sharing platform where users have control over the data.

For note taking, obviously you want private access. We will have support for private repos very shortly. This was stated in the intros, and we have improved the wording to make it clearer.

Hope this helps.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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All this is is a presentation with a boatload of text and absolutely NO indication of what the app looks like or how you go about using it. Even before i saw the note about the security issues i wouldn't click on try because why should i invest my time in trying it. I have no clue what it does beyond saving markdown files to github. I've got plenty of markdown apps that I like quite a bit, and uploading my notes to g…

I'm one of the devs for Kobble. Since Kobble is such a versatile tool, it can be quite difficult to tune a marketing message clearly. We are working on it!

One of Kobble's primary uses is as an open content sharing platform. GitHub gists were chosen for this purpose intentionally, because the discovery mechanisms are built into GitHub. On top of that, we have built a flexible data model (similar to YouTube) for organizing and sharing the content.

Private repos (which are coming shortly) address the other use case where you want to keep data private. We have clarified this in the intros.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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I quote from your website: "Don't worry if you don't know what GitHub is, you only need to create an account." You don't appear to make any assumptions that your users understand that their notes will be published and readable by anyone on the internet. Furthermore, your clarification: "Currently, Kobble stores all user data in secret GitHub Gists, under your account. Secret gists are not private." does not help beca…

It really sounds like the creators of the app didn't know that anyone could read the Gists...

Please read the comments above about the multiple ways that Kobble can be used. Our use of gists for openly sharing content was entirely intentional.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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> Kobble is the only app available where you own all of your data. What? I find that highly unlikely. In what way do I not "own" the texts I write in–for example–Apple's Notes.app? And what is even meant by "own"? Even for something like Facebook, I'm pretty sure that I still own the copyright for texts I write in their app.

We have improved the wording, and changed 'own' to 'control'. As was stated elsewhere in these comments, we are building an open content sharing platform where users 'control' the data, not us. Since it's in your GitHub account and not on our servers, you can do whatever you want with it.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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This feels excessively complicated to me. what's a track? what's a channel? why do I need filenames for everything? why does it take 3 minutes for a new user to write a single line of 'note' ? a beautiful notes app (to me) would be one where you start with writing a note

Yes, why the obscure abstraction that isnt analogous to anything? Tracks are associated with audio and channels with video. This isn't something that should be unique or creative. The notebook/note paradigm works exceedingly well becayse everyone intuitively understands it. I spent two minutes before I just quit. its too bad, the apo seemed nice

Many shortcuts will appear next week, making it easier to get started, so please check back.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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Fair enough. We merged the channel/playlist concept.

..but, but, it doesn't really apply to the expectations of a note app. You're a light text editor that cloud saves to Github; why are you trying to push a new vernacular that doesn't logically apply here? I don't manage projects with a notes app. I don't create tracks with a notes app. I don't create channels with a notes app. I don't create playlists with a notes app. It's pretty and functional; play to your strengt…

We are honing our marketing message. Kobble is much more than just a notes app. It's also a content sharing platform. That's why some of the names were chosen. I think 'track' is causing the most confusion. It's basically a tree or folder structure.

Re: Show HN: Kobble – Notes app that saves directly to GitHub

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The model is very similar to other popular apps, like YouTube or Spotify. Instead of organizing songs or videos into channels, you organize tracks.

People don't seem to like your names, and perhaps the names do need more work, but I wanted to commend you for trying . Whenever I see something named "Group" I cringe a little, because it is so abstract and meaning-free. It is barely better than names like "Thing" and "Entity". So I appreciate your attempt to be more concrete and creative!

I'm one of the devs on Kobble. There was debate about the names - it's not easy. 'channel' seems good, it's used by Slack also, and one of our channels is similar. 'track' however, is another story. It's really a tree or folder structure.
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